Jordan Backing Scotland.

[Wozza16]

Re: Jordan Backing Scotland.

I don't buy into the we should be thankful for the English leagues and that we would be ruined if we were in the Cymru Premier or that anybody in the FA or English system should be able to say thanks but you're out now.

We have both mutually benefitted over the years, some of the south Wales games had huge attendances for the time so by playing in the English system we helped the leagues in at least a small part become what they are today and now we benefit due to the exposure to the big money and investment of the game. If the Welsh clubs hadn't been invited/joined then the Welsh league system would undoubtedly be in a stronger position than it is now if it had formed naturally over the following years.

[dembethewarrior]

Re: Jordan Backing Scotland.

Attention seeking prick

The best way to deal with them is let them carry on, they want the anger hence the controversial opinions. They're literally paid to do this..or make money off the back of the fact companies know they divide opinions so can't wait to throw them on the air.. I don't even get angry anymore it's a waste of my own energy. And just helps build their profile.

[dembethewarrior]

Re: Jordan Backing Scotland.

Welshies, know your place!


....... when it comes to international football, england is a bandwagon full of clowns. .... they go from overconfidence to lashing out in the blink of an eye. This tosser is a prime example.


Treseder is obviously a little brit too ....."jocks" ......shit league. ........blah blah blah ........The english league would be of a comparable standard to the spl if it wasn't for foreign money and footballing talent.It's got very little to do with England.

Wouldn't all top European leagues? There's a reason Scotland hasn't had billions pumped into their football league..same as Wales.

I'm sure the English league would still be a whole lot better than Scotlands if you took the money away.

[dembethewarrior]

Re: Jordan Backing Scotland.

I don't buy into the we should be thankful for the English leagues and that we would be ruined if we were in the Cymru Premier or that anybody in the FA or English system should be able to say thanks but you're out now.

We have both mutually benefitted over the years, some of the south Wales games had huge attendances for the time so by playing in the English system we helped the leagues in at least a small part become what they are today and now we benefit due to the exposure to the big money and investment of the game. If the Welsh clubs hadn't been invited/joined then the Welsh league system would undoubtedly be in a stronger position than it is now if it had formed naturally over the following years.

But still not as good as the SPL we don't have a rangers or celtic.

[goats]

Re: Jordan Backing Scotland.

Thing is Splotty. The jocks can legitimately slag the English, as they all play in their own league system, it may be piss poor, but at least all their clubs play in it.
We just couldn’t survive in a Welsh league. Neither could the other big Welsh clubs.
We can take the piss out of England in many sports, but when it comes to football, it’s like a homeless guy, taking the piss out of someones walloaper. ��

Which is why it was so funny watching another golden generation allegedly, collapse completely against Iceland. Nevermind the wallpaper falling off, the whole house collapsed making the homeless guy feel quite safe in his tent. Allied with us doing so well, I’ll never forget it…..

[Trigger]

Re: Jordan Backing Scotland.

I don't buy into the we should be thankful for the English leagues and that we would be ruined if we were in the Cymru Premier or that anybody in the FA or English system should be able to say thanks but you're out now.

We have both mutually benefitted over the years, some of the south Wales games had huge attendances for the time so by playing in the English system we helped the leagues in at least a small part become what they are today and now we benefit due to the exposure to the big money and investment of the game. If the Welsh clubs hadn't been invited/joined then the Welsh league system would undoubtedly be in a stronger position than it is now if it had formed naturally over the following years.

I'm not sure we have added much to the brand, same as 99% of the clubs there we would have been easily replaceable over the years.

There would still be next to no money in the Welsh league.

I don't see how we can be anything but thankful that we joined the English pyramid, nothing wrong with accepting that. Doesn't mean we have to go around jerking them off though, it was over 100 years ago.

[William Treseder]

Re: Jordan Backing Scotland.

Welshies, know your place!


....... when it comes to international football, england is a bandwagon full of clowns. .... they go from overconfidence to lashing out in the blink of an eye. This tosser is a prime example.


Treseder is obviously a little brit too ....."jocks" ......shit league. ........blah blah blah ........The english league would be of a comparable standard to the spl if it wasn't for foreign money and footballing talent.It's got very little to do with England.

What a load of tosh you’ve posted here.
“Welshies know your place” Yes in the fact that we only survive as a big club because we are in the English set up.
“Treseder is obviously a little brit too. Bollox. The last time i looked at my passport, i was British.
As it goes, the SPL is very poor league, but only because they have a fraction of the dough that the EPL gets.
They’ve always had the crowds. Something we wouldn’t get anywhere near in an all Welsh set up.
The truth sometimes hurts, but nevertheless, it’s the truth. As Trigger has point out, we don’t need to be fawning over the English, i personally love it when they balls up in tournament, but we still rely on them for our lifeblood.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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I like Simon Jordan, one of the few football 'commentators' who openly condemn the profligacy and greed of the top clubs and PL in particular. Regard to his comments re. the Welsh players he's 100% right. No class, chip-on-shoulders, immature. If England had done the same - there would be pitchforks being sharpened in the Sennyd

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: Jordan Backing Scotland.

I like Simon Jordan, one of the few football 'commentators' who openly condemn the profligacy and greed of the top clubs and PL in particular. Regard to his comments re. the Welsh players he's 100% right. No class, chip-on-shoulders, immature. If England had done the same - there would be pitchforks being sharpened in the Sennyd

Agree pretty much, he speaks his mind, and yes it reality they were being a bit childish, we thought it was funny but wouldn't be happy if it was the other way around.

[jon1959]

Re: Jordan Backing Scotland.

I like Simon Jordan, one of the few football 'commentators' who openly condemn the profligacy and greed of the top clubs and PL in particular. Regard to his comments re. the Welsh players he's 100% right. No class, chip-on-shoulders, immature. If England had done the same - there would be pitchforks being sharpened in the Sennyd

Utter rubbish.

'If England had done the same' could only have happened if England were a football minnow that had put up with living in the shadow of their entitled bigger neighbour for most of their history, and often been ignored or patronised by the UK national media.

It was a joke FFS. It was joyous solidarity with another football minnow getting a rare one over on our biggest rival, and one of the big boys of European football. Most English commentators took it in that way and treated that 'once in a generation moment' as a fair cop.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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Utter rubbish.

'If England had done the same' could only have happened if England were a football minnow that had put up with living in the shadow of their entitled bigger neighbour for most of their history, and often been ignored or patronised by the UK national media.

It was a joke FFS. It was joyous solidarity with another football minnow getting a rare one over on our biggest rival, and one of the big boys of European football. Most English commentators took it in that way and treated that 'once in a generation moment' as a fair cop.

It's difficult not to patronize the likes of Drakeford, the Sennydd, BBC Wales, S4C, et al. Inward- looking hobbits obsessed with all things Welsh, and sneering at every opportunity at anything remotely English/British.

[Divine Wright]

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Wouldn't all top European leagues? There's a reason Scotland hasn't had billions pumped into their football league..same as Wales.

I'm sure the English league would still be a whole lot better than Scotlands if you took the money away.

I just get the feeling there is a lot of ignorance when it comes to people who watch the english leagues judging foreign leagues.

Listening to Woodgate choosing a best 11 between the scousers and madrid....guess what ...it was basically a liverpool 11 with Alaba , Modric and Benzema....... and this is a supposed expert . He obviously doesn't have the first idea about La Liga.

Same goes for the SPL ..... I don't know much about it so refrain from passing judgement. What I do know however is that for a country of 5 million people it seems to have a certain amount of success at european level and the people in Scotland actually enjoy their league.

I bet you the same people who slag off the SPL romanticise the "real" football of the championship and advocate not getting promoted to the top english league. Kind of ironic.

Would an all english league be better than the spl ? I guess those who remember first division football before the premier league will be able to answer that one. All things being equal I guess that was the relative standard you could expect nowadays. Better than scotland ? Probably a similar style of football. Lots of guts and passion .....basically every team would be a little more like Burnley with the odd flair player like grealish, sterling and the odd fox in the box a la Keane and Vardy.

It is also important to remember that england has a population of 50 odd million so side by side, it would likely be a better standard overall , but would it would also be less prestigious and more along the lines of Serie A or Ligue 1 in terms of global attention.

[Divine Wright]

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It's difficult not to patronize the likes of Drakeford, the Sennydd, BBC Wales, S4C, et al. Inward- looking hobbits obsessed with all things Welsh, and sneering at every opportunity at anything remotely English/British.

Voting fo Brexit is not at all inward looking is it.

Borris Johnson is ****in buffoon.

Downing street is a all boys club ...with the odd bird and ethnic minority chucked in for good measure.

BBC Wales..... at the end of the day, it's still a british media channel.

S4C ....if you don't understand welsh nor have nothing to do with the welsh speaking world how can you judge ? I think that is called "prejudice" in your language.

[Divine Wright]

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What a load of tosh you’ve posted here.
“Welshies know your place” Yes in the fact that we only survive as a big club because we are in the English set up.
“Treseder is obviously a little brit too. Bollox. The last time i looked at my passport, i was British.
As it goes, the SPL is very poor league, but only because they have a fraction of the dough that the EPL gets.
They’ve always had the crowds. Something we wouldn’t get anywhere near in an all Welsh set up.
The truth sometimes hurts, but nevertheless, it’s the truth. As Trigger has point out, we don’t need to be fawning over the English, i personally love it when they balls up in tournament, but we still rely on them for our lifeblood.

I just think this whole we rely on them for our lifeblood is the same crap we have to swallow from the more anglo-scentric welsh people on a political level when it comes to independence. Always the same premonitions of doom and infallibilty regarding the importance of listening to our masters.

In an alternative reality Wales would have a modest football league along the lines of the scottish league. We'd play more football in Europe and the standard of sides like Llanelli , Bangor or Bridgend would likely improve. There might be two sides in Cardiff instead of one.

A 15 side league made up of Cardiff City, Swansea, Newport, Wrexham, Bangor, Llanelli, Riverside FC..... etc would be entertaining in its own way. I dont expect those of you who are tradilionalist and fans of the english system to agree but the reality would not be as grim as people make out and those of you who love the english set up could follow a bristol team or somethign in order to get your fix.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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Voting fo Brexit is not at all inward looking is it.

Borris Johnson is ****in buffoon.

Downing street is a all boys club ...with the odd bird and ethnic minority chucked in for good measure.

BBC Wales..... at the end of the day, it's still a british media channel.

S4C ....if you don't understand welsh nor have nothing to do with the welsh speaking world how can you judge ? I think that is called "prejudice" in your language.

I think you've gone some way to confirming my points