Warnock to be investigated?

[Ninian1962]

Re: Warnock to be investigated?

Jason Puncheon was one. Google it.

Why has Rowan Vine waited 10 years before bringing this information forward? No idea. You'd have to ask him. Wasn't it a TikTok video or something similar? Maybe he didn't intend to make the allegations publicly, but these things have a habit of surfacing eventually. But who cares? The information's out there now.

Any views on the magnificent McKay twins deal Warnock struck?

Or on the transfer of Joey Barton from Newcastle to QPR when NW was QPR manager?

Or the football authorities looking into transfers arranged through an agency who at the time employed James Warnock when NW was Crystal Palace manager?

Or the football authorities being very concerned about transfers arranged through a different agency who by then had employed a certain James Warnock when NW was CCFC manager? At one point 9 of our squad were on that agency`s books which is a higher number than any other club in the EFL or Premier League. That included a couple of players that moved to that agency from another one.

Or of CCFC manager NW regularly picking his youngest son William to play in Development games ahead of more talented players, therefore partly blocking their development?

In my opinion, by far the most worrying activity was NW dealing with Willie McKay over a considerable period concerning the Emiliano Sala transfer when he knew full well that said individual was not an authorised intermediary (and also remains an undischarged bankrupt until at least August 2023 )and therefore was not allowed under FA and UEFA rules to have any involvement at all in football transfers. That would be the same Willie McKay who was the agent involved in the Joey Barton transfer mentioned above.

[dml1954]

Re: Warnock to be investigated?

Maybe he wanted to wait until Warnock retired?
Didn't we consider signing Rowan Vine when Warnock released him at QPR, or was it just silly season on the message board?

Has Warnock retired though ? He has said he has before.

[The Lone Gunman]

Re: Warnock to be investigated?

So predictable

What is?

[dml1954]

Re: Warnock to be investigated?

Or on the transfer of Joey Barton from Newcastle to QPR when NW was QPR manager?

Or the football authorities looking into transfers arranged through an agency who at the time employed James Warnock when NW was Crystal Palace manager?

Or the football authorities being very concerned about transfers arranged through a different agency who by then had employed a certain James Warnock when NW was CCFC manager? At one point 9 of our squad were on that agency`s books which is a higher number than any other club in the EFL or Premier League. That included a couple of players that moved to that agency from another one.

Or of CCFC manager NW regularly picking his youngest son William to play in Development games ahead of more talented players, therefore partly blocking their development?

In my opinion, by far the most worrying activity was NW dealing with Willie McKay over a considerable period concerning the Emiliano Sala transfer when he knew full well that said individual was not an authorised intermediary (and also remains an undischarged bankrupt until at least August 2023 )and therefore was not allowed under FA and UEFA rules to have any involvement at all in football transfers. That would be the same Willie McKay who was the agent involved in the Joey Barton transfer mentioned above.

Did the football authorities take any action though. Some of these things happened years ago. Until proven otherwise Warnock is not guilty of anything and your comments are all speculation and innuendo. Where is the evidence that Warnock was involved with anything illegal in any of the things you said.

[The Lone Gunman]

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No, you google it and provide the information. You are the one who made the accusation. With regard to the Mckay twins, in order to make a decision on that, we need to know exactly how much they were paid and other details of their contracts - any ideas ?

Do your own research if you’re interested. I’m too busy trying to find more information about the massive Madine loan fee. It’s eluded me thus far.

[dembethewarrior]

Re: Warnock to be investigated?

No, you google it and provide the information. You are the one who made the accusation. With regard to the Mckay twins, in order to make a decision on that, we need to know exactly how much they were paid and other details of their contracts - any ideas ?

No matter what their contracts were they had **** all business being here.

[Alfresco]

Re: Warnock to be investigated?

Sounds like a load of cobblers. TLG stated 'A number of Warnock’s ex-players have made similar claims in various podcasts and interviews in recent years' that is one hell of a statement and one that he should give details of his findings.

[The Lone Gunman]

Re: Warnock to be investigated?

Sounds like a load of cobblers. TLG stated 'A number of Warnock’s ex-players have made similar claims in various podcasts and interviews in recent years' that is one hell of a statement and one that he should give details of his findings.

I haven’t conducted an investigation. Therefore, I have no findings to present. I remember reading reports about Puncheon’s claims which I believe made it as far as a Parliamentary select committee, I remember reading on here discussions about podcasts in which an ex-Sheffield Utd player or players claimed they had had to split appearance money with Warnock if he put them on as a sub or something similar (I didn’t pay too much attention and never listen to podcasts), and now we have Rowan Vine’s claims.

Probably all rubbish, though. After all, Warnock didn’t conduct any suspect deals while he was at Cardiff, did he? I’m sure he’s as honest as the day is long.

[Lawnmower]

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As much as I admire what Warnock did when he first came here, that promotion season was something special, that deal with the McKays was dodgy as hell and his relationship with their father casts a cloud over it all.

The bringing on of Rhys Healey in a game we needed to get something from ( and could have) away at Fulham was another odd one.

Brought on 15 minutes before Bobby Reid, who immediately made a massive difference ( Healey wasn’t much more than a passenger)
Appearance fee ?

[Tuerto]

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[Tuerto]

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[the other bob wilson]

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Interesting.

[tomcat]

Re: Warnock to be investigated?

A number of Warnock’s ex-players have made similar claims in various podcasts and interviews in recent years. Interesting, as I’ve never heard any former players make claims of this nature about any other manager.

While the FA are investigating, they should take a look at the deal which brought the McKay twins to Cardiff.

An extremely reliable source said that this was "allegedly" happening at Middlesborough and was discovered by the owner. He was less than pleased and worked out a way for them to part without it becoming common knowldege. The same source advised me that Tan took great interest in the Bacuna transfer after Wanock had left, he was advised that the figures didn't stack up and we paid way away over both the purchase price and wages for a player of his quality and reputation. The only other bids were in the £800k mark.

[Enoch Mort]

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The Transfer Committee said no to the Sala transfer so Warnock goes over their head and persuades Tan directly to approve the transfer at a fee which Dalman and Co were not happy with.

I wonder why he was so desperate to sign him ? What was his motivation ? Of course, he must have thought that he was the striker we needed to solve our problems !

Is Tan saying yes to Warnock after the Transfer Committee saying no the biggest "Sliding Doors" moment in the history of CCFC ?

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/were-under-siege-mehmet-dalman-21950687

[NYCBlue]

Re: Warnock to be investigated?

Where are there people on this thread so determined for this not to be true? I don't understand why people who are detached from a situation could be so against things being investigated. It doesn't make sense.