Phew Johnny Depp Won

[Hometown Unicorn!]

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Another case of victim blaming and the women made out to look emotionally unstable. She probably made a few bad decisions and when you fight back people will point and say look she’s just as bad. Depp seems to be fairly unhinged, misogynistic and violent. I’m sure he’s delighted with the outcome and how he seems to have got people back on side. This is also going to emboldened those nutter incels.

Hopefully this won’t put off other women in abusive relationships speaking out for fear of similar treatment.

[OurManFlint II]

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Another case of victim blaming and the women made out to look emotionally unstable. She probably made a few bad decisions and when you fight back people will point and say look she’s just as bad. Depp seems to be fairly unhinged, misogynistic and violent. I’m sure he’s delighted with the outcome and how he seems to have got people back on side. This is also going to emboldened those nutter incels.

Hopefully this won’t put off other women in abusive relationships speaking out for fear of similar treatment.

Yeah fully agree, terrible state of affairs.

I didn't follow it but didn't he lose the same type of trial in the UK?

As normal, lawyers are the real winners. In the words of Chuck D "****ing lawyers"

[Optimistic Nick]

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I genuinely have no idea what this case has been about. It seems to be big news and I’m sure it’s important but I thought I’d do a little experiment and see if it’s possible to be entirely ignorant of a global news story just by not reading about it. I consume a LOT of news output, I spend about an hour a day on the bbc website alone.

Turns out you can be entirely ignorant of major story if you want. And I mean entirely ignorant. I am aware that there was a court case with depp and heard. I don’t know how they are related, what the issue is, which one of them is the defendant, whether any personal things have been uncovered as a result of the case, who came out of it well or not etc. from Reddit stuff I get the impression that heard is unpopular, and im aware that a witness burned the lawyer who questioned if he was there for his 15 minutes of fame. But that is it. If I had to guess, they were married and the case is about how to split the wealth.

Im not really sure what I’ve proved to myself through my little experiment. Probably nothing. I was sort of expecting that I’d be forced to know about the case through sort-of news osmosis but I successfully kept myself entirely ignorant of what is presumably quite an important news story.

[xsnaggle]

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Yeah fully agree, terrible state of affairs.

I didn't follow it but didn't he lose the same type of trial in the UK?

As normal, lawyers are the real winners. In the words of Chuck D "****ing lawyers"

He lost a libel case in UK against a national newspaper, a decision made by a judge alone, unlike the US case which was decided by a jury (Unanimous decision). The newspaper in question is owned by Rupert Murdoch whose family the judge's family has a relationship with, and who's son works for Rupert Murdoch. The UK Judge said there was little doubt that Depp was a wife beater and finding against him even denied him the right to appeal.
the evidence in the USA clearly proved that Heard was lying in that trial and had lied in the UK trial. some of her lies were so blatant i cannot believe she ever thought she'd get away with them, unless she believed that no one would question her because she was the 'poor wife'.
There is some talk now about her being charge with perjury in the UK case, and that his lawyers may seek to have a retail or an appeal allowed in UK. Whatever happens I'd say the Judge should be asked to explain himself.

[PhyllisStant]

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Another case of victim blaming and the women made out to look emotionally unstable. She probably made a few bad decisions and when you fight back people will point and say look she’s just as bad. Depp seems to be fairly unhinged, misogynistic and violent. I’m sure he’s delighted with the outcome and how he seems to have got people back on side. This is also going to emboldened those nutter incels.

Hopefully this won’t put off other women in abusive relationships speaking out for fear of similar treatment.

Did you actually watch the trial? There were no witnesses or evidence of violence against her. There was clear evidence of her committing perjury. The list goes on and on. It was really damning for her. I suspect a lot more will now come to light, particularly as Depp prevented his adult children from giving evidence. Whilst your view of Depo being unhinged might be accurate. Having addiction issues shouldn’t mean you think he’s violent and misogynistic.

If i were jumping to conclusions, who would I have believed? Heard who has abused family members and partners. Or Depp who was abused by his mother and had had support from previous partners including his ex-wife of 25 years who he left for Heard. Despite that I watched hours and hours of the trial (current studying a law module) and came to the same conclusion as the jury.

This is not a setback for women. It’s a win for ALL sufferers of abuse. What I do agree is that some of the online rhetoric, vitriol and hyperbole is unhelpful. From both sides.

[goats]

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Another case of victim blaming and the women made out to look emotionally unstable. She probably made a few bad decisions and when you fight back people will point and say look she’s just as bad. Depp seems to be fairly unhinged, misogynistic and violent. I’m sure he’s delighted with the outcome and how he seems to have got people back on side. This is also going to emboldened those nutter incels.

Hopefully this won’t put off other women in abusive relationships speaking out for fear of similar treatment.

Their marriage counsellor testified that she would be the one to get violent even in front of her in session, so why do you think he is? She’s one of those who have a need for conflict, she just assumed she could jump on the meetoo bandwagon and fleece the poor bugger for more. Sure he is a wreck head and gets off it, but he’s always been a harmless one according to many who know him over the last 25 years….

[goats]

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Did you actually watch the trial? There were no witnesses or evidence of violence against her. There was clear evidence of her committing perjury. The list goes on and on. It was really damning for her. I suspect a lot more will now come to light, particularly as Depp prevented his adult children from giving evidence. Whilst your view of Depo being unhinged might be accurate. Having addiction issues shouldn’t mean you think he’s violent and misogynistic.

If i were jumping to conclusions, who would I have believed? Heard who has abused family members and partners. Or Depp who was abused by his mother and had had support from previous partners including his ex-wife of 25 years who he left for Heard. Despite that I watched hours and hours of the trial (current studying a law module) and came to the same conclusion as the jury.

This is not a setback for women. It’s a win for ALL sufferers of abuse. What I do agree is that some of the online rhetoric, vitriol and hyperbole is unhelpful. From both sides.

Shame they didn’t throw her in the cells for perjury, thankfully kate moss highlighted it too….

[Wash DC Blue]

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Another case of victim blaming and the women made out to look emotionally unstable. She probably made a few bad decisions and when you fight back people will point and say look she’s just as bad. Depp seems to be fairly unhinged, misogynistic and violent. I’m sure he’s delighted with the outcome and how he seems to have got people back on side. This is also going to emboldened those nutter incels.

Hopefully this won’t put off other women in abusive relationships speaking out for fear of similar treatment.

Unbelievable.
Someone is more trustworthy due to their genitalia?
He seems very much like the victim to me.

[jon1959]

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A fair bit of the post-trial commentary seems to say that this will finally be decided on appeal.

A lot of defamation cases end up at appeal in the US... apparently.

The commentaries I have seen say the jury lost sight of the law in this case. It became a popularity contest in the courtroom and on social media (which the jury surely followed) between Depp and Heard. She was unsympathetic, probably lying and probably a major part of a sometimes violent (physical and verbal) and dysfunctional marriage.

But when it comes to the law and what was written in the opinion piece that triggered the case, most comment I have seen is confident that there was no defamation (unlike in the court room itself where everything was chucked around) and the jury based its verdict on something else. The jury verdict was also contradictory.

[Lither_1927]

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A fair bit of the post-trial commentary seems to say that this will finally be decided on appeal.

A lot of defamation cases end up at appeal in the US... apparently.

The commentaries I have seen say the jury lost sight of the law in this case. It became a popularity contest in the courtroom and on social media (which the jury surely followed) between Depp and Heard. She was unsympathetic, probably lying and probably a major part of a sometimes violent (physical and verbal) and dysfunctional marriage.

But when it comes to the law and what was written in the opinion piece that triggered the case, most comment I have seen is confident that there was no defamation (unlike in the court room itself where everything was chucked around) and the jury based its verdict on something else. The jury verdict was also contradictory.

There's no evidence the jury followed the trial on social media. wild speculation based on nothing and would be discounted by a judge if that claim were made in court.

Do you have any examples, where it became a popularity contest in court? I can't think of any from what i viewed.

Intersectionality proponents require Heard to win. Their whole value system depends on an oppressive patriachy where women don't lie or manipulate the truth.

[Wash DC Blue]

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A fair bit of the post-trial commentary seems to say that this will finally be decided on appeal.

A lot of defamation cases end up at appeal in the US... apparently.

The commentaries I have seen say the jury lost sight of the law in this case. It became a popularity contest in the courtroom and on social media (which the jury surely followed) between Depp and Heard. She was unsympathetic, probably lying and probably a major part of a sometimes violent (physical and verbal) and dysfunctional marriage.

But when it comes to the law and what was written in the opinion piece that triggered the case, most comment I have seen is confident that there was no defamation (unlike in the court room itself where everything was chucked around) and the jury based its verdict on something else. The jury verdict was also contradictory.

Which commentaries did you see that formed this opinion?

Absolutely embarrassing if you side with Amber Heard and much more likely to be on the same level as the incels mentioned.

[NYCBlue]

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I didn't really follow it, but they seemed to both come out of it as pretty disgusting people.

[Lither_1927]

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Which commentaries did you see that formed this opinion?

Absolutely embarrassing if you side with Amber Heard and much more likely to be on the same level as the incels mentioned.

I bet he got it from CNN.

[life on mars]

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Beautiful looking woman

But it seems she's potty 🤔

Onwards

She is proper skint.

May not get Hollywood gig again looking for a gaff??

Reach out ??

[life on mars]

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Which commentaries did you see that formed this opinion?

Absolutely embarrassing if you side with Amber Heard and much more likely to be on the same level as the incels mentioned.

Don't think Depp has makes me laugh though we look up to rock stars of the past who did far worse than Depp and Heard .

You wouldn't want to get full disclosure on Zeppelin's antics or Courtney of Hole . One could got on for ever listed this crap .

And let's not forget the modern day footballers antics ?