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    The much maligned, by City's owners, Cornelius, inferred to be a dodgy transfer by Malky Mackay & Co. scored the 2 goals that Denmark beat France by in the Nations League in Paris last night. He has had a successful season in Turkiye
    helping Trabonzspor to their first title in 38 years. This comes after several years in Ligue 1 and Serie A.

    Was he ready for the Premier League when we signed him, perhaps not although injuries did not help, but not worth a punt at £6m? I think history proves he was.

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    Re: Andreas Cornelius

    He was useless NINE years ago bringing a whole new dimension to the expression "raw young striker". He was a "punt" by Mackay based on a good first season in the Danish league.
    While he has done well since we will never know if a couple of seasons sat on the bench at the CCS would have helped him develop as he did.

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    • #3
      Re: Andreas Cornelius

      8-9 years on and despite transfer fees being massively inflated in that time I still doubt he is worth the 6m we paid for him.

      To me he goes down as our worse transfer, at the time 6m was a hell of a lot more than it is now. That was a huge chunk of a big budget having just been promoted. The one thing we needed after promotion was a proven striker so to take a punt with a huge transfer fee for a long term project was nothing short of disgraceful. Yes if your Man City and you think he can develop for a few years in the youth team and then sure take a punt. We needed a striker for there and then, we certainly didn’t need a project at that cost.

      History shows it was a huge mistake not that Malky would ever admit it.

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      • #4
        Re: Andreas Cornelius

        The transfer fee was the problem, not the player. It was a wildly inflated price for a young player going abroad from the Danish Superliga at the time, and would be now too I suspect. If we'd paid maybe 2 million and allowed him to develop, without huge expectations, then we could have had a good signing I think.
        People saying he was useless then base it on a handful of brief appearances as he was also injured for much of his time with us, which was just very unfortunate on his part.
        He was very raw, but over here he was highly regarded by just about everyone and expected to go on to bigger things than FC Copenhagen. People definitely raised an eyebrow at the fee but definitely not the talent

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        • #5
          Re: Andreas Cornelius

          Originally posted by Albany View Post
          The much maligned, by City's owners, Cornelius, inferred to be a dodgy transfer by Malky Mackay & Co. scored the 2 goals that Denmark beat France by in the Nations League in Paris last night. He has had a successful season in Turkiye
          helping Trabonzspor to their first title in 38 years. This comes after several years in Ligue 1 and Serie A.

          Was he ready for the Premier League when we signed him, perhaps not although injuries did not help, but not worth a punt at £6m? I think history proves he was.
          He wasn't worth a punt to us because we couldn't wait years for him to develop.


          At the time we needed an experienced striker who could hit the ground running which he plainly wasn't

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          • #6
            Re: Andreas Cornelius

            Originally posted by Elwood Blues View Post
            He wasn't worth a punt to us because we couldn't wait years for him to develop.


            At the time we needed an experienced striker who could hit the ground running which he plainly wasn't
            If he was bought as a punt I'd hazard a wild guess that we'd have then brought in the experienced striker we needed as well..

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            • #7
              Re: Andreas Cornelius

              Terrible signing.

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              • #8
                Re: Andreas Cornelius

                I agree with poor sigining remarks and he's still around the 6 million mark as he will score as he us a lump ,ehy is he not at a big club in the leading nations in Europe ie Spain , Italy ,Germany, France or even Denmark , he is a poor man's Moore in my view.

                I'd have given Rudy a run rather than waste valuable transfer kitty money , and bought a seasoned back striker , every penny spent effected our survival, therefore it was a poor decesion and probably cost a lot more than the 10 million fee .

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                • #9
                  Re: Andreas Cornelius

                  A poor signing as things transpired.

                  Might well have been a stroke of genius had VT kept his powder dry and allowed MM see his premier league season through.

                  He must have thought he had a job for life at City to contemplate paying out so much for "one for the future".
                  Could have been so different had it been a decade or so earlier pre-text messaging.

                  As they say though, if my auntie....

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                  • #10
                    Re: Andreas Cornelius

                    Didn’t we also massively inflate his wages, a reported 45k a week, how much is that over the 9 years on top of the transfer fee.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Andreas Cornelius

                      When Andreas Cornelius signed a five-year contract for Cardiff City in July 2013, he had just turned 20 years of age. To put that into perspective, he was a few months younger than Chanka Zimba is now. He'd had one full season in the Danish Superliga and had finished top scorer with 18 goals in 32 appearances. He was also already a full Danish international and had scored a hat-trick for his national team against Canada and further goals against Mexico and the Czech Republic. He clearly had bags of potential.

                      During the car crash season that was 2013/14, Cornelius was given a grand total of six months to prove himself and he was injured for a significant portion of that time. By the time Vincent Tan had made him a scapegoat for the club's failings and had shipped him back to Copenhagen, he was still just 20 years-old.

                      His transfer was clearly an error of judgement on Mackay's part and the player obviously couldn't cope with the weight of expectation that was placed on him. However, given what he had done before he arrived in Cardiff, the way in which he was written off and publicly humiliated was clearly ridiculous. But let's be honest, much of what was going at Cardiff City in 2013/14 was clearly ridiculous.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Andreas Cornelius

                        As I recall it was Malky speaking of his ‘potential’ or a project which upset Tan. Tan thought every signing could be a bargain like the Swansea Spanish guy who’s name I can’t spell.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Andreas Cornelius

                          Originally posted by Dave Blue View Post
                          As I recall it was Malky speaking of his ‘potential’ or a project which upset Tan. Tan thought every signing could be a bargain like the Swansea Spanish guy who’s name I can’t spell.
                          Or Mr Tan was assuming MM decisions was based on sensibke appropriate scouting not some agents selling blurb if I was VT and it was my money I'd question why one club did it right and the other didn't, thats is surely down to those who work to Mr Tan like any other organisation???

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                          • #14
                            Re: Andreas Cornelius

                            Originally posted by Dave Blue View Post
                            As I recall it was Malky speaking of his ‘potential’ or a project which upset Tan. Tan thought every signing could be a bargain like the Swansea Spanish guy who’s name I can’t spell.
                            I would think so, that’s what annoyed me as well. Who on earth buys a project for a huge fee when we are badly in need of a player in that position to start games to keep us up. I thought Malky was taking the p1ss massively out of the fans and the club with those comments, as if we are that stupid.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Andreas Cornelius

                              Originally posted by 2b2bdoo View Post
                              I would think so, that’s what annoyed me as well. Who on earth buys a project for a huge fee when we are badly in need of a player in that position to start games to keep us up. I thought Malky was taking the p1ss massively out of the fans and the club with those comments, as if we are that stupid.
                              I agree. I’m not defending the signing. We had a certain budget no doubt but for that budget Tan expected - rightly or wrongly- to be doing well.

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