The Making of Robert Page

[dembethewarrior]

Re: The Making of Robert Page

I hope you don't think that's a valid comparison.

Part of the reason a team gets promoted is to stay in that higher division. It hardly wants to win promotion to enjoy one season losing lots of games en route to a return to the division below. Warnock had rarely ever proved himself a manager capable in the PL. Our aim should have been survival and if that meant getting a new boss in, who had a better track record in the PL, then so be it.

The World Cup is a one off tournament. Unless we win it, which is a million to one shot, we'll still have to qualify again in 4 years time. What are our ambitions? If we got out of the group stage I'd be ecstatic. Would a change of manager get us any further? I doubt it.

From what I recall, Chris Coleman had his critics before the Euros. I wasn't too convinced by him. We got to a semi final with a manager who hadn't really achieved much. Page said last night that the squad hardly needs managing, they're such a good bunch. We saw in Euro 2016 that the squad was together, united. The balance of the Welsh setup is great. No need to change anything now. Of course, much will change after the World Cup.

No. I was taking the piss.

[Tuerto]

Re: The Making of Robert Page

Yes, that is my opinion if I am allowed to have one. We looked more cohesive in midfield against the Czech Republic when he came on and played in front of the defence. It seems the problem we have is Ampadu is our best player in two positions, so there will always be some debate about where he plays. If he plays at RCB we run the risk of teams coming through the middle when we play against decent opposition.

Ampadu doesn't have a position. He played in 5 different positions for Venezia, and although he may have done well (I don't have a clue) it isn't a positive for a young player to be shifted about so often. You compared him to Beckenbauer on here once or twice. I do hope that you were joking :hehe:

[Rjk]

Re: The Making of Robert Page

Giggs can **** off

[Rjk]

Re: The Making of Robert Page

Ampadu doesn't have a position. He played in 5 different positions for Venezia, and although he may have done well (I don't have a clue) it isn't a positive for a young player to be shifted about so often. You compared him to Beckenbauer on here once or twice. I do hope that you were joking :hehe:

he needs to settle on a position asap in my opinion.
I think a ball playing centre back will be his best position, but he gets out of.position sometimes, which would be improved by playing there all the time.
he played the Ukrainian players onside a couple of times the other night

[Ivortheengine]

Re: The Making of Robert Page

Let’s see what he’s made of in November.If Wales would have been up against a Mitrovic type of striker, the whole of Wales football nation would have wanted him out of the door. Lucky for him they weren’t. Some things are just meant to be.

[Tuerto]

Re: The Making of Robert Page

he needs to settle on a position asap in my opinion.
I think a ball playing centre back will be his best position, but he gets out of.position sometimes, which would be improved by playing there all the time.
he played the Ukrainian players onside a couple of times the other night

Yeah, he didn't step up on a couple of occasions. He's decent, but struggles when he has to pick up runners, he has a tendency to ball watch or follow the ball, his awareness isn't great at times. As a 'Spare' defender-midfielder he's decent, because a lot of that role is about putting yourself in positions to snuff out danger or receive the ball and set up attack. He isn't a natural defender or midfield player in the traditional sense. He does need to cement a position if he is to develop into a very good player.

[BLUEAWAY]

Re: The Making of Robert Page

Speaks volumes about Giggs's character that he's been taking £400k a year from us when it's obvious to everyone that the team's moved on. He should have walked away and handed over to Page a long time ago.

Can you be certain that he is taking the money.

[Cleve van Leef]

Re: The Making of Robert Page

Let’s see what he’s made of in November.If Wales would have been up against a Mitrovic type of striker, the whole of Wales football nation would have wanted him out of the door. Lucky for him they weren’t. Some things are just meant to be.

But they didn’t did they? So luck doesn’t come into it. Pointless post.

Why don’t you troll the dark side, you’d be most welcome there.

[dembethewarrior]

Re: The Making of Robert Page

But they didn’t did they? So luck doesn’t come into it. Pointless post.

Why don’t you troll the dark side, you’d be most welcome there.

If you don't respond to trolls they have no audience.

[WJ99mobile]

Re: The Making of Robert Page

To me Giggs is by far the better manager

But we now have to cut ties I think, can’t see him getting the dressing room back.

Such a shame he ****ed it up for himself

Even if Page is awful at the WC I don’t care, it was always about just getting there for me

[delmbox]

Re: The Making of Robert Page

Can you be certain that he is taking the money.

Welsh FA Chief Exec said this back in November, I can't be certain nothing's changed but also don't see why it would have

https://nation.cymru/sport/ryan-giggs-still-earning-wales-football-manager-salary/

[WJ99mobile]

Re: The Making of Robert Page

Speaks volumes about Giggs's character that he's been taking £400k a year from us when it's obvious to everyone that the team's moved on. He should have walked away and handed over to Page a long time ago.

Why wouldn’t he if he felt he was innocent

[delmbox]

Re: The Making of Robert Page

To me Giggs is by far the better manager

But we now have to cut ties I think, can’t see him getting the dressing room back.

Such a shame he ****ed it up for himself

Even if Page is awful at the WC I don’t care, it was always about just getting there for me

In 22 games, apart from the B team loss to Poland the other day Page has only lost to France, Belgium, Italy and Denmark. I think "Giggs is by far the better manager" is stretching it

[delmbox]

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Why wouldn’t he if he felt he was innocent

Because him coming back now is clearly not in the national team's best interests, too much has happened. Not that he's ever been one to care about anybody apart from himself, as I'm sure his brother would testify

[Moodybluebird]

Re: The Making of Robert Page

How anybody can question Page's credentials after he's plotted a successful course through a qualification minefield that has included some very decent sides is beyond me. We've always been a limited team for obvious reasons but with Page's help, boundaries are being pushed further back with every tournament we play. The players think the world of him, he took the helm at a very difficult time and finally, he's managed a team to do something we haven't done as a nation for over 60 years. I for one salute him and hope that Giggs stands down well before the build up to the World Cup itself.