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  • #31
    Re: My GP

    Originally posted by life on mars View Post
    Its very complex to compare Health Services , France is seen as the best but expensive , you get charged for GP visits and can claim back from the government ( like that one that would stop unnecessary visits )

    State healthcare in France is not completely free.

    Health care costs are covered by the state and patient contributions , known as co-payments , can be about £40 bucks a month out of wages , prices vary depending on level you want need , there are loads of health insurance plans.

    Same In Germany there is a basic free to access service and then top up insurance from pay .

    Then you need to know what's and how each country's health care expenditures by area , what is its death rate , what personal lifestyles people adopt such as alcohol consumption, obesity , Type 2 diabetes in the UK has the worst blood glucose control,





    same in Germany .
    Having lived in Germany I know which health system I would prefer to use.

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    • #32
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      Originally posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
      Having lived in Germany I know which health system I would prefer to use.
      is it the system, or the funding you'd prefer? if we funded our NHS as well as other countries fund their models perhaps it would be even better

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      • #33
        Re: My GP

        Originally posted by Rjk View Post
        is it the system, or the funding you'd prefer? if we funded our NHS as well as other countries fund their models perhaps it would be even better
        The quality of the service.

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        • #34
          Re: My GP

          I’ve knocked having a bricks and mortar GP on its head as I’d moved during lockdown and struggled to find any local taking on patients. I started using the Babylon app for video consultations for nurses or doctors and it’s been a dream, often times being able to talk to either on the day or in the next couple. Had blood tests sorted through it at short notice too. It won’t be for all but I can’t imagine going back now.

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          • #35
            Re: My GP

            Originally posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
            The quality of the service.
            I'd argue that has more to do with how much it is funded rather than how it is funded.
            you can get incredible quality of service in the USA, but you have to be prepared to pay for it.

            that said I think in the pandemic years we've been spending more than many of our European neighbors, because soo much money was wasted and ended up in the pockets of Tory donors

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            • #36
              Re: My GP

              Originally posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
              Having lived in Germany I know which health system I would prefer to use.
              I'm sure you would .. As I would ..

              I have a friend there its not that cheap though , guess you get what you pay for , as soon as this government raised NI there was an outcry and shouts of Tories are the tax raises , those in UK under 39k are unaffected ,might be worth examining what a German pays earning 39k ...

              Its pointless comparing what we have than others I guess , we need to brave and change the dynamic of its running and funding instead of parties using it as political point scoring .....

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              • #37
                Re: My GP

                I had a bad stomach this time last year and went to the doctors. He told me that it wasn't what we all panic about but I'd better have an emergency endoscopy in the next fortnight. That was July. I had the test the week before Christmas. They told me on the day that it was nothing too serious and they could sort it with antibiotics. Last week I had a text saying to arrange a telephone consultation with my doctor as they had found something. 6 bloody months later!!

                They said that it was nothing serious but needed sorting.

                I had a text off my doctor for a 2.50pm telephone conversation yesterday. By 4 o clock I was getting concerned as I hadn't heard from them. I rang and the receptionist said he's rung me an hour earlier that they'd said but I'd have to make a new appointment for a weeks time as I hadn't answered. I hit the roof saying no way was I waiting, seeing as I was available waiting for the call at the correct time. Her response was amazing, saying that I shouldn't take any notice of the texts they send out with appointment times as they are always wrong!!!

                Finally spoke to a doctor this morning , and lo and behold she decided that we need a face to face meeting at the surgery asap.
                What an absolute bloody shambles!!

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                • #38
                  Re: My GP

                  Originally posted by Rjk View Post
                  I'd argue that has more to do with how much it is funded rather than how it is funded.
                  you can get incredible quality of service in the USA, but you have to be prepared to pay for it.

                  that said I think in the pandemic years we've been spending more than many of our European neighbors, because soo much money was wasted and ended up in the pockets of Tory donors
                  The US health system is responsible for two-thirds of bankrupticies in that country. It's a different kettle of fish to the German system.

                  https://www.investopedia.com/financi...%20from%20work.

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                  • #39
                    Re: My GP

                    Javid announces some good news for the NHS.

                    NHS patients will benefit from the next generation of vaccines thanks to a new deal with @moderna_tx. A state-of-the-art mRNA manufacturing & global R&D centre will be built in to tackle future threats boost the economy & create jobs cement our science superpower status https://t.co/qbcaTE6E6Z

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                    • #40
                      Re: My GP

                      Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
                      Javid announces some good news for the NHS.

                      https://twitter.com/sajidjavid/statu...90236031549441
                      Wow that’s great news……..:hehe:

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                      • #41
                        Re: My GP

                        Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
                        Javid announces some good news for the NHS.

                        https://twitter.com/sajidjavid/statu...90236031549441
                        My word, he gets an absolute pounding in that thread.

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                        • #42
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                          Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post
                          Wow that’s great news……..:hehe:
                          I thought some of the comments were maybe a bit harsh.

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