How long can football clubs to exist without crowds?

[Taunton Blue Genie]

We are all aware of the financial difficulties caused in this country by clubs having had to play behind closed doors in the last two seasons but in my efforts to attend a game in the Egyptian Premier League next week I discovered the following:
Fans of the Egyptian Premier League were barred from attending their teams’ matches since massacres that took place after the match between Al-Ahly SC and Al-Masry SC in Port Said in February 2012, resulting in 74 deaths and over 500 injuries.
There was an attempt to bring the fans back to the stands in 2015 but the move was dropped after 20 Zamalek fans lost their lives while attempting to enter a stadium.
Subsequently, Covid came along and it seems that only last October were clubs permitted to have a couple of thousand fans attend games in stadiums that accommodate up to 75,000 fans.
For my part, an Egyptian gentleman I will be staying with (and a fan of Cairo's Zamalek team) has assisted me in going through the motions of creating a required Fan ID that is necessary to purchase tickets - and it even involved declaring one's blood group! I somehow don't expect to see next Wednesday's game but watching Egyptian Premier League games has been a minority pleasure even in Egypt since 2012, it seems.

[Daniel15]

Re: How long can football clubs to exist without crowds?

Wow.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Said_Stadium_riot

I had never heard of that before. Everyday is a school day

[Ivortheengine]

Re: How long can football clubs to exist without crowds?

In this country, the clubs don’t need the fans.They survived comfortably during Covid anyway.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Re: How long can football clubs to exist without crowds?

In this country, the clubs don’t need the fans.They survived comfortably during Covid anyway.

Mushrooms?

[William Treseder]

Re: How long can football clubs to exist without crowds?

We are all aware of the financial difficulties caused in this country by clubs having had to play behind closed doors in the last two seasons but in my efforts to attend a game in the Egyptian Premier League next week I discovered the following:
Fans of the Egyptian Premier League were barred from attending their teams’ matches since massacres that took place after the match between Al-Ahly SC and Al-Masry SC in Port Said in February 2012, resulting in 74 deaths and over 500 injuries.
There was an attempt to bring the fans back to the stands in 2015 but the move was dropped after 20 Zamalek fans lost their lives while attempting to enter a stadium.
Subsequently, Covid came along and it seems that only last October were clubs permitted to have a couple of thousand fans attend games in stadiums that accommodate up to 75,000 fans.
For my part, an Egyptian gentleman I will be staying with (and a fan of Cairo's Zamalek team) has assisted me in going through the motions of creating a required Fan ID that is necessary to purchase tickets - and it even involved declaring one's blood group! I somehow don't expect to see next Wednesday's game but watching Egyptian Premier League games has been a minority pleasure even in Egypt since 2012, it seems.

You obviously have to declare your blood group, as it sound as though there’s a very good chance you’re going to need some blood transfusions once the away fans get hold of you old fruit.

[Jimmy the Jock]

Re: How long can football clubs to exist without crowds?

In this country, the clubs don’t need the fans.They survived comfortably during Covid anyway.

Really ?

Lots wrong with football . Thankfully they need the fans to make it a proper spectacle.

[Citizen's Nephew]

Re: How long can football clubs to exist without crowds?

We are all aware of the financial difficulties caused in this country by clubs having had to play behind closed doors in the last two seasons but in my efforts to attend a game in the Egyptian Premier League next week I discovered the following:
Fans of the Egyptian Premier League were barred from attending their teams’ matches since massacres that took place after the match between Al-Ahly SC and Al-Masry SC in Port Said in February 2012, resulting in 74 deaths and over 500 injuries.
There was an attempt to bring the fans back to the stands in 2015 but the move was dropped after 20 Zamalek fans lost their lives while attempting to enter a stadium.
Subsequently, Covid came along and it seems that only last October were clubs permitted to have a couple of thousand fans attend games in stadiums that accommodate up to 75,000 fans.
For my part, an Egyptian gentleman I will be staying with (and a fan of Cairo's Zamalek team) has assisted me in going through the motions of creating a required Fan ID that is necessary to purchase tickets - and it even involved declaring one's blood group! I somehow don't expect to see next Wednesday's game but watching Egyptian Premier League games has been a minority pleasure even in Egypt since 2012, it seems.

I've read this post several times now and my jaw still drops every time. I had no idea this sh*t had been going on and it's actually heartbreaking. As Daniel15 said, 'Every day's a schoolday'. CCMB can get a bit crazy sometimes but posts like this are gems. :thumbup: TBG!

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: How long can football clubs to exist without crowds?

I've read this post several times now and my jaw still drops every time. I had no idea this sh*t had been going on and it's actually heartbreaking. As Daniel15 said, 'Every day's a schoolday'. CCMB can get a bit crazy sometimes but posts like this are gems. :thumbup: TBG!

You are too kind, sir. Before I was aware of the situation a few days ago I had the intention of watching one of the three Egyptian Premier League games being played in Cairo tomorrow and Wednesday evening,one of them being Zamalek. By coincidence, a male gynaecologist who is a Zamalek fan, accepted my request to couchsurf with him on those two nights. My registration for a Egyptian fan ID was initially approved but it's now held up due to my Covid passes needing to be approved.
I can't see me being able to attend even if my application were to be approved as I understand that only 1,000 home fans are permitted to attend.
It would be rather devoid of atmosphere too if you see what the stadium looks like:
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[the other bob wilson]

Re: How long can football clubs to exist without crowds?

Wow.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Said_Stadium_riot

I had never heard of that before. Everyday is a school day

I knew of the riot and can remember it being reported in the UK media, but I'd have never said it was ten years ago and was unaware that it had such a dramatic effect on Egyptian football since then - I would say I hope TBG is able to attend, but, in this particular instance, I wouldn't really mean it.

[lardy]

Re: How long can football clubs to exist without crowds?

You are too kind, sir. Before I was aware of the situation a few days ago I had the intention of watching one of the three Egyptian Premier League games being played in Cairo tomorrow and Wednesday evening,one of them being Zamalek. By coincidence, a male gynaecologist who is a Zamalek fan, accepted my request to couchsurf with him on those two nights. My registration for a Egyptian fan ID was initially approved but it's now held up due to my Covid passes needing to be approved.
I can't see me being able to attend even if my application were to be approved as I understand that only 1,000 home fans are permitted to attend.
It would be rather devoid of atmosphere too if you see what the stadium looks like:
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If you're free in the day, maybe you can tag along when your holiday landlord goes to work.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: How long can football clubs to exist without crowds?

If you're free in the day, maybe you can tag along when your holiday landlord goes to work.

Laughing here. If that were possible I would try decorating my hallway through the letterbox when I get back. Anyway, must go - as my internal flight to Cairo awaits....

[Citizen's Nephew]

Re: How long can football clubs to exist without crowds?

You are too kind, sir. Before I was aware of the situation a few days ago I had the intention of watching one of the three Egyptian Premier League games being played in Cairo tomorrow and Wednesday evening,one of them being Zamalek. By coincidence, a male gynaecologist who is a Zamalek fan, accepted my request to couchsurf with him on those two nights. My registration for a Egyptian fan ID was initially approved but it's now held up due to my Covid passes needing to be approved.
I can't see me being able to attend even if my application were to be approved as I understand that only 1,000 home fans are permitted to attend.

It would be rather devoid of atmosphere too if you see what the stadium looks like:
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Well good luck (getting in and stay safe if you do!), I must admit, it'll be quite an experience and I do like going to neutral matches to mix it up as it's a completely different football perspective. Talking of perspective, I know that's a wide-angle shot of the stadium but those types of stadia drive me nuts. I like to be close to the action and the huge perimeters between the pitch and the fans puts me off them.

I follow the Greek Super league (AEK Athens) and watch it whenever I find a stream but the grounds are often too big (or the crowds are too small!) and there's little atmosphere on TV. I've got a trip planned this winter. Mrs Citizen is running a half-marathon (she's building up to the Marathon for next year) and I of course will be exercising my best Greek so I can order a cocktails while I cheer her on from a Taverna. It's going to be tough.... but I've got this!

[life on mars]

Re: How long can football clubs to exist without crowds?

Well after the outpouring during Corvid from top clubs due to the empty stadium according to the players / managers it would die ??

I would personally not bother watching the City on TV , the terrace culture is the buzz for me plus the social interaction side either side of the game .

[life on mars]

Re: How long can football clubs to exist without crowds?

Mushrooms?

Psilocybe semilanceata tea

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: How long can football clubs to exist without crowds?

Well after the outpouring during Corvid from top clubs due to the empty stadium according to the players / managers it would die ??

I would personally not bother watching the City on TV , the terrace culture is the buzz for me plus the social interaction side either side of the game .

You seem more of an ornithologist (although that comment will probably be a whoosh for you).