Barristers strike

[UNDERHILL1927]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61946038

I’m all for strikes but having been subject to years of pay caps due to austerity, striking over a 15% pay rise (a potential £7000 extra a year) seems a little out of touch with reality.

[BLUETIT]

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That’s a lot for just making a cup of coffee

[UNDERHILL1927]

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That’s a lot for just making a cup of coffee

😂😂😂😂😂 quality.

[Canton Kev]

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Is it the ones on 50k a year striking or the younger ones just starting out who, once fees and costs are taken into account, can leave a courtroom with no money?

[blue matt]

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That’s a lot for just making a cup of coffee

thats how comedy is done

[UNDERHILL1927]

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Is it the ones on 50k a year striking or the younger ones just starting out who, once fees and costs are taken into account, can leave a courtroom with no money?

Across the board from what I can see in that article.

[jon1959]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61946038

I’m all for strikes but having been subject to years of pay caps due to austerity, striking over a 15% pay rise (a potential £7000 extra a year) seems a little out of touch with reality.

Some of them are on less than the minimum wage.

They are self employed and have to pay for all their expenses, including travel.

One interviewed this evening on Channel 4 described a fee she earned of £50 to represent someone at the Leicester court. She lives in London and her travel costs etc were over £170. She was paid minus £120 for a day's work. They are also not payed for all or most of the preparation work. Junior criminal barristers have a wig and a massive overdraft - and they cannot afford to do the job in many cases. The whole system is screwed - and made worse by idiots like Raab.

At the other end of the scale experienced commercial lawyers (including barristers) can be earning a small fortune.

[UNDERHILL1927]

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Some of them are on less than the minimum wage.

They are self employed and have to pay for all their expenses, including travel.

One interviewed this evening on Channel 4 described a fee she earned of £50 to represent someone at the Leicester court. She lives in London and her travel costs etc were over £170. She was paid minus £120 for a day's work. They are also not payed for all or most of the preparation work. Junior criminal barristers have a wig and a massive overdraft - and they cannot afford to do the job in many cases. The whole system is screwed - and made worse by idiots like Raab.

At the other end of the scale experienced commercial lawyers (including barristers) can be earning a small fortune.

Yes, to be fair I didn’t real the whole article so can certainly empathise with the junior barristers. If I could retract the post I would, although it was worth it for Blue Tits joke.

It has highlighted one thing, that there are a lot of unhappy people out there, in all professions and walks of life.

[Citizen's Nephew]

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Let's not let the real issues get in the way e.g. Meanwhile, new criminal barristers can earn as little as £9,000 once costs, including transport, are factored in, while some barristers say the time they spend preparing cases means their hourly earnings are below minimum wage. which is in the article.

Legal Aid restrictions are the real story. Try getting any? In fact, try getting justice in this country if you're not minted, have a title or white.

That's the joke. Right there.

[Eric Cartman]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61946038

I’m all for strikes but having been subject to years of pay caps due to austerity, striking over a 15% pay rise (a potential £7000 extra a year) seems a little out of touch with reality.

That is how 'they' want you to feel...

I am in exactly the same boat but we all need to fight the urge to fall for that otherwise it is one big race to the bottom while the very wealthiest profit from our misery and infighting.

[Citizen's Nephew]

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Some of them are on less than the minimum wage.

They are self employed and have to pay for all their expenses, including travel.

One interviewed this evening on Channel 4 described a fee she earned of £50 to represent someone at the Leicester court. She lives in London and her travel costs etc were over £170. She was paid minus £120 for a day's work. They are also not payed for all or most of the preparation work. Junior criminal barristers have a wig and a massive overdraft - and they cannot afford to do the job in many cases. The whole system is screwed - and made worse by idiots like Raab.

At the other end of the scale experienced commercial lawyers (including barristers) can be earning a small fortune.

[Citizen's Nephew]

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That is how 'they' want you to feel...

I am in exactly the same boat but we all need to fight the urge to fall for that otherwise it is one big race to the bottom while the very wealthiest profit from our misery and infighting.

Yes, a million times.

[UNDERHILL1927]

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That is how 'they' want you to feel...

I am in exactly the same boat but we all need to fight the urge to fall for that otherwise it is one big race to the bottom while the very wealthiest profit from our misery and infighting.

Divide and conquer in its purest form and I’ve fallen for it hook, line and sinker

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Legal aid , where so many groundbreaking cases are fought is under threat big time

I absolutely hate the Tories

[Citizen's Nephew]

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Divide and conquer in its purest form and I’ve fallen for it hook, line and sinker

We've been played for so long it's hard to not get caught out. The soundbite from Raab is a good example. People have no idea of the mess the criminal justice system is in. Especially the Justice Secretary.