Chicago Mass Shooting

[JamesWales]

Re: Chicago Mass Shooting

Serious question, but when did the assault type weapons or high powered rifles etc become legal in the US? Have they always been so? The number of mass shootings is increasing significantly as is the number of general firearm deaths and suicide deaths.

There is also only a very loose connection between gun ownership and gun death rates when you look at it state by state.

Something has changed in the last 10 years. Don't get me wrong, I would ban these assault weapons tomorrow and raise the gun ownership rate to at the very least 21, but it strikes me that the change is not actually in relation to access to guns and the severity of the guns - is that right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States

[lardy]

Re: Chicago Mass Shooting

Serious question, but when did the assault type weapons or high powered rifles etc become legal in the US? Have they always been so? The number of mass shootings is increasing significantly as is the number of general firearm deaths and suicide deaths.

There is also only a very loose connection between gun ownership and gun death rates when you look at it state by state.

Something has changed in the last 10 years. Don't get me wrong, I would ban these assault weapons tomorrow and raise the gun ownership rate to at the very least 21, but it strikes me that the change is not actually in relation to access to guns and the severity of the guns - is that right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_vi..._United_States

If I remember, they were banned in the 90s but that law was removed under George W Bush

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Them same people have been around decades before trump was president

Them same 80 IQ Hicks are the same people who farmed the land that fed the US, the same who worked in the factories of the US

though I guess a bit of generalization goes a long way :shrug:

They are assholes though , you can't educate assholes

A lot of the people who farmed the land and worked in the factories were against the right to own a gun and still are today

[Lither_1927]

Re: Chicago Mass Shooting

Serious question, but when did the assault type weapons or high powered rifles etc become legal in the US? Have they always been so? The number of mass shootings is increasing significantly as is the number of general firearm deaths and suicide deaths.

There is also only a very loose connection between gun ownership and gun death rates when you look at it state by state.

Something has changed in the last 10 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_vi..._United_States

America is a sick society in decay, The gun is just a symptom of deeper illness. There was a time not so long ago when kids took firearms to school for shooting practice. America wasn't always like this...personally i think the decline in religion correlates with a rise in nihilism, fecklessness, and moral relativism leading to chaos.

[Feedback]

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thoughts and prayers are on their way, that should make everything ok again.

[Rjk]

Re: Chicago Mass Shooting

Serious question, but when did the assault type weapons or high powered rifles etc become legal in the US? Have they always been so? The number of mass shootings is increasing significantly as is the number of general firearm deaths and suicide deaths.

There is also only a very loose connection between gun ownership and gun death rates when you look at it state by state.

Something has changed in the last 10 years. Don't get me wrong, I would ban these assault weapons tomorrow and raise the gun ownership rate to at the very least 21, but it strikes me that the change is not actually in relation to access to guns and the severity of the guns - is that right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_vi..._United_States

I guess increasing inequality. many people are under a lot of pressure these days, and the gap between the haves and have nots in America is widening all the time.
I saw a historian noting a few years ago that it is approaching the point (or already there) at which in other societies in the past we have seen violent uprisings and revolution. so it is easy to see why there is more simmering resentment in general, and this building resentment has been redirected from those that have all the power to other groups.
attribute the blame to immigrants, to culture wars etc etc, that is the reason your life is so hard now, not the fact that those at the top are making more and more money.
pressure is definitely building like a pressure cooker, who knows how it will end

[blue matt]

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They are assholes though , you can't educate assholes

bit more generalization, not sure all 80 IQ Hicks are assholes, but still doesn't take away the fact that they are not a new thing, they were around along time before Trump came to power

[Citizen's Nephew]

Re: Chicago Mass Shooting

I guess increasing inequality. many people are under a lot of pressure these days, and the gap between the haves and have nots in America is widening all the time.
I saw a historian noting a few years ago that it is approaching the point (or already there) at which in other societies in the past we have seen violent uprisings and revolution. so it is easy to see why there is more simmering resentment in general, and this building resentment has been redirected from those that have all the power to other groups.
attribute the blame to immigrants, to culture wars etc etc, that is the reason your life is so hard now, not the fact that those at the top are making more and more money.
pressure is definitely building like a pressure cooker, who knows how it will end

Agree, and with people armed with assault rifles, what could possibly go wrong?

[Lither_1927]

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bit more generalization, not sure all 80 IQ Hicks are assholes, but still doesn't take away the fact that they are not a new thing, they were around along time before Trump came to power

It was such an ignorant generalisation, not even worth bothering with. The demographic with most gun violence in America isn't 80IQ hicks i can assure you.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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America is a sick society in decay, The gun is just a symptom of deeper illness. There was a time not so long ago when kids took firearms to school for shooting practice. America wasn't always like this...personally i think the decline in religion correlates with a rise in nihilism, fecklessness, and moral relativism leading to chaos.

It's the blacks

Even when it's a white guy like this one , it's the blacks

You complete tool

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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It was such an ignorant generalisation, not even worth bothering with. The demographic with most gun violence in America isn't 80IQ hicks i can assure you.

It's non believers obviously

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[Tito Fuente]

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It was such an ignorant generalisation, not even worth bothering with. The demographic with most gun violence in America isn't 80IQ hicks i can assure you.

Is your "old PC" still booting up? A month or so ago, I believe you promised some stats about non-whites committing the most mass shootings that never came to fruition.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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bit more generalization, not sure all 80 IQ Hicks are assholes, but still doesn't take away the fact that they are not a new thing, they were around along time before Trump came to power

I am certain that the majority of uneducated idiots carrying guns in America are assholes

And a lot of the rest with weapons are too

[JamesWales]

Re: Chicago Mass Shooting

There are a lot of gross generalisations about these things, with both sides looking for evidence they are right.

The fact this happens is part of the problem. The causes are complex and very unlikely to fit with any ideological position.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Chicago Mass Shooting

There are a lot of gross generalisations about these things, with both sides looking for evidence they are right.

The fact this happens is part of the problem. The causes are complex and very unlikely to fit with any ideological position.

Why is it that in Canada , a society with access to guns , far fewer people per head of population are killed by firearms than over the border ?