Knife crime in this area

[Ivortheengine]

Another “ incident” close to Ely Leisure Centre earlier today , in which two teenagers were taken into police custody. I don’t get it ,and never will. Why do you need to carry a knife around with you ? If you’re carrying one, then you must be wanting to use it sooner or later. I don’t see it getting any better in the future,unless the authorities really want to change the rules in this country. What do others think ?

[Canton Kev]

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Guns. Lots of guns. Should sort things out right?

[The Hooded Claw]

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I think that it getting worse is partly due to the glamorisation of gang culture perpetuated by certain musical genres. There’s been a normalisation of misogynistic, racist and violent lyrics in mainstream music and no one’s speaking out because that wouldn’t be cool.
It’s become cool to be a bad boy amongst young people.

[Moodybluebird]

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I think that it getting worse is partly due to the glamorisation of gang culture perpetuated by certain musical genres. There’s been a normalisation of misogynistic, racist and violent lyrics in mainstream music and no one’s speaking out because that wouldn’t be cool.
It’s become cool to be a bad boy amongst young people.

Spot on but be prepared to be shot down for daring to criticise modern day youth culture !

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Mods and Rockers carried knives many many years ago

[the other bob wilson]

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I think that it getting worse is partly due to the glamorisation of gang culture perpetuated by certain musical genres. There’s been a normalisation of misogynistic, racist and violent lyrics in mainstream music and no one’s speaking out because that wouldn’t be cool.
It’s become cool to be a bad boy amongst young people.

I’d say your last sentence has always held true.

[jon1959]

Re: Knife crime in this area

Another “ incident” close to Ely Leisure Centre earlier today , in which two teenagers were taken into police custody. I don’t get it ,and never will. Why do you need to carry a knife around with you ? If you’re carrying one, then you must be wanting to use it sooner or later. I don’t see it getting any better in the future,unless the authorities really want to change the rules in this country. What do others think ?

What rules do you want to change?

https://www.police.uk/pu/advice-crime-prevention/possession-of-weapons/

My gut feeling is that knife crime is more likely to reduce through cultural change than through tinkering with legal proscriptions and sentencing guidelines. I doubt greater restrictions or tougher sentences will have an effect - they haven't in the past. When I was working for our local Council there was a low level arms race of knife carrying (and sometimes use) often where frightened kids carried a knife for what they thought was self defence, but ended up escalating incidents that might have been avoided. Hard to break the cycle of fear and violence - but we had some success working with community/gang leaders to make knife carrying appear a sign of weakness not strength.

[OurManFlint II]

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I think that it getting worse is partly due to the glamorisation of gang culture perpetuated by certain musical genres. There’s been a normalisation of misogynistic, racist and violent lyrics in mainstream music and no one’s speaking out because that wouldn’t be cool.
It’s become cool to be a bad boy amongst young people.

Guns don't kill people, Rappers do!

[delmbox]

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Spot on but be prepared to be shot down for daring to criticise modern day youth culture !

too right, and don't get me started on those tikstagrams they play on their gameboys

[cyril evans awaydays]

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Guns don't kill people, Rappers do!

From Bristol Zoo to B&Q

[Jordi Culé]

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What rules do you want to change?

https://www.police.uk/pu/advice-crime-prevention/possession-of-weapons/

My gut feeling is that knife crime is more likely to reduce through cultural change than through tinkering with legal proscriptions and sentencing guidelines. I doubt greater restrictions or tougher sentences will have an effect - they haven't in the past. When I was working for our local Council there was a low level arms race of knife carrying (and sometimes use) often where frightened kids carried a knife for what they thought was self defence, but ended up escalating incidents that might have been avoided. Hard to break the cycle of fear and violence - but we had some success working with community/gang leaders to make knife carrying appear a sign of weakness not strength.

I've always read with interest Glasgows strategy to knife crime that was (I think) successful.

If Glasgow can do it, where it was entrenched (knife crime) in their gangs, its doable in other cities?

[Citizen's Nephew]

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Spot on but be prepared to be shot down for daring to criticise modern day youth culture !

Reformed Cardiff City fans’ll put the world to rights!

[Citizen's Nephew]

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Reformed Cardiff City fans’ll put the world to rights!

That was flippant and I'm sorry if I've offended any reformed Cardiff City bad boys.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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I've always read with interest Glasgows strategy to knife crime that was (I think) successful.

If Glasgow can do it, where it was entrenched (knife crime) in their gangs, its doable in other cities?

Mogwai

[ToTaL ITK]

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I think that it getting worse is partly due to the glamorisation of gang culture perpetuated by certain musical genres. There’s been a normalisation of misogynistic, racist and violent lyrics in mainstream music and no one’s speaking out because that wouldn’t be cool.
It’s become cool to be a bad boy amongst young people.

but god forbid you say anything about LGBTQIAXYZÅÖÄ..not having a go at that community but there needs to be some sort of regulation