Speed limit to be lowered to 20mph in Wales

[JamesWales]

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Probably the guy doing the beating's fault rather than the speed limit this isn't it

In other speed limit related news, I got a very nice letter the other day saying I was going 30mph on Wellington St but the limit is actually 20mph so could I slow down a bit otherwise I'd have to get a speeding ticket next time. Very sensible way of dealing with it I thought (I thought it was 30mph)

100% the fault of the violent thug in question, although I did suspect that road rage would increase with the 20mph thing, I know it has mine, which never exceeds mumbling under my breath for someone to "fecking hurry up" or "use Ur indicators, bellend".

I think the warning letter is the right approach too tbh. In all honesty though there are costs and admin associated with that and I think you should get it for going 35 in a 30 rather than 30 in a 20 in that scenario. Wellington Street is a wide street with good visibility. Should be 30 imo.

Interestingly I got off a parking fine recently as I said I was simply unaware of the charges (they were new) and it was a first time offence and I wouldn't park there again. So its worth appealing sometimes 👍

[Cyncoed Dave]

Re: Speed limit to be lowered to 20mph in Wales

I believe you may have been doing under 25 mph. As that appears to be the threshold, for an automatic fine with points on your licence.

[Cyncoed Dave]

Re: Speed limit to be lowered to 20mph in Wales

That's the season that we had Andy McCulloch.

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Re: Speed limit to be lowered to 20mph in Wales

I believe you may have been doing under 25 mph. As that appears to be the threshold, for an automatic fine with points on your licence.

No, the letter said 30mph, which makes sense because I thought it was 30mph

[Cyncoed Dave]

Re: Speed limit to be lowered to 20mph in Wales

No, the letter said 30mph, which makes sense because I thought it was 30mph

You lucky boy. Looks like they have given a period of grace, after the new camera was installed in December 2025..


"The speed limit on Wellington Street in Cardiff is 20 mph. A fixed 20 mph speed camera, located at the junction with Wells Street, was activated in December 2025 to enforce this limit, according to Wales Online and GoSafe. While initially part of a 30 mph zone, it was updated to 20 mph in line with the Welsh national default,"

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You lucky boy. Looks like they have given a period of grace, after the new camera was installed in December 2025..


"The speed limit on Wellington Street in Cardiff is 20 mph. A fixed 20 mph speed camera, located at the junction with Wells Street, was activated in December 2025 to enforce this limit, according to Wales Online and GoSafe. While initially part of a 30 mph zone, it was updated to 20 mph in line with the Welsh national default,"

yeah looks like it, nice to see some common sense

[North Cardiff Blue]

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https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...limit-33502992


'I was battered for obeying 20mph speed limit' Pensioner speaks out about 'terrifying' road rage incident

A grandfather was punched in the face simply for adhering to the 20mph speed limit. Dashcam footage captured the moment Christopher Shaw, 40, jumped from his van to strike Christopher Lavis, then 68, leaving him with a fractured right cheekbone and eye socket as well as a broken nose and concussion.

The unprovoked assault in Brynmenyn, Bridgend county, happened hours before Mr Lavis was scheduled to undergo a cardiac examination, which had to be delayed because of the attack. Mr Lavis' wife Elizabeth Lavis, 68, sat helpless in the passenger seat as the brutal assault unfolded.

Mr Lavis slammed the 12-month suspended sentence handed to Shaw last week. The pensioner has not driven since the attack due to anxiety and has been left relying on a walking stick for stability.

He said the violence appeared to be provoked by his "simple act of courtesy" in giving way to oncoming traffic and maintaining the proper speed of 20mph.

Mr Lavis, from Brynmenyn, told SWNS: "The reason he [the judge] didn't give him a jail sentence is because this bloke has his own roofing business and people rely on him for their jobs. To me, I don't give a monkey's if you're Donald Trump. If you employ people, you should have thought of that before you thumped somebody. I was very, very disappointed that it wasn't a custodial sentence."

At around 8.15am on July 30, Mr Lavis had heard a beeping horn from a van behind him, which was flashing its lights. "He pulled over into another street to allow the van to pass and then carry on his way," prosecutor Ben Jones told Newport Crown Court.

Mr Lavis later came to a stop to give way to oncoming traffic. The same van then appeared behind him and at that point Shaw exited the van, opened the driver-side door of Mr Lavis' car and attacked him.

After throwing the punch, Shaw stopped Mr Lavis from closing his car door and continued to shout at him before finally allowing him to shut it.

Mr Lavis was treated at the University Hospital of Wales in Cardiff for his injuries.

He said: "I'm still suffering today... I've got balance issues that [mean] my head doesn't feel steady. I'm stumbling quite a bit, tripping over things. Before the incident I had no problems at all. I used to run the parkrun every Saturday. This has really impacted on my life."

Mrs Lavis described the incident as "deeply traumatic" and said she was "terrified" when she saw Shaw's punch had caused her husband to "immediately begin bleeding heavily".

Shaw, of Heol Glannant in Bettws, initially told police he had thrown the punch in self-defence but later pleaded guilty to ABH (actual bodily harm) assault. He had six previous offences including an assault from 25 years ago.

His solicitor Derrick Gooden described the attack as "entirely out of character" and told the court his "remorseful" client would be happy to pay compensation within 28 days.

The judge, Recorder Paul Lewis KC, said: "He has a roofing business that employs people who are dependent on him, he has a family, a niece, and he pleaded guilty at the earliest opportunity. On balance, by a whisker, it seems to me that although the offence demands a sentence of imprisonment it is one the court can suspend."

Turning to Shaw, he said: "What you did that day was inexcusable and unjustified. I accept, however, you are remorseful and ashamed."

The judge imposed a one-year jail term suspended for two years, £1,500 in compensation, 50 hours of unpaid work, a £187 victim services surcharge and £150 in prosecution costs.

Probably more to it than just driving at 20mph, maybe more like fifteen and giving the finger or two?

We'll never know, a bit over the top, mind for whatever reason.

[PontBlue]

Re: Speed limit to be lowered to 20mph in Wales

Clearly has anger management issues. Should someone with a history of those issues be allowed behind the wheel?

[Dorcus]

Re: Speed limit to be lowered to 20mph in Wales

Probably more to it than just driving at 20mph, maybe more like fifteen and giving the finger or two?

We'll never know, a bit over the top, mind for whatever reason.

I doubt it. Just someone who should never be allowed out of prison.