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  • #31
    Re: James Webb telescope

    Originally posted by rudy gestede View Post
    There’s a lot more behind the theory than that in fairness but it’s not unlike you to present your ignorance as a source of pride
    I think you'll find that I'm correct in saying the scientific consensus is that everything began with a 'big bang'. If the scientists say that's what happened, then they're right.

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    • #32
      Re: James Webb telescope

      Originally posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
      I think you'll find that I'm correct in saying the scientific consensus is that everything began with a 'big bang'. If the scientists say that's what happened, then they're right.
      do you understand why they think that?

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      • #33
        Re: James Webb telescope

        Has anyone here ever been to CERN?

        Mrs Citizen has been pestering me to go for a visit for years and it's on the (her) bucket list. Just wondered if anyone had been?

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        • #34
          Re: James Webb telescope

          Originally posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
          I think you'll find that I'm correct in saying the scientific consensus is that everything began with a 'big bang'. If the scientists say that's what happened, then they're right.
          Scientists worth their salt declare that they do not know what happened before the Big Bang. I don't think they necessarily state that is was the starting point, as such. Science means knowledge - and at the current time, we do not seem to have the evidence or knowledge to go back before the Big Bang. Have you read any scientific non-fiction books about what evidence there is about how things develop "post-Big-Bang" ?

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          • #35
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            Originally posted by Rjk View Post
            do you understand why they think that?
            I haven't got a fu**ing clue.

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            • #36
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              Originally posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
              Scientists worth their salt declare that they do not know what happened before the Big Bang. I don't think they necessarily state that is was the starting point, as such. Science means knowledge - and at the current time, we do not seem to have the evidence or knowledge to go back before the Big Bang. Have you read any scientific non-fiction books about what evidence there is about how things develop "post-Big-Bang" ?
              Actually the theory postulated by the scientific community when asked that question, was that before the 'big bang' there was another 'big bang'.

              On the question of science, what is everything made of ?

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              • #37
                Re: James Webb telescope

                Originally posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
                Actually the theory postulated by the scientific community when asked that question, was that before the 'big bang' there was another 'big bang'.

                On the question of science, what is everything made of ?
                Have a read of short history of nearly everything by bill Bryson if you’re genuinely interested. It’s a nice summary and pitched at a level that’s understandable and entertaining.

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                • #38
                  Re: James Webb telescope

                  Originally posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
                  Actually the theory postulated by the scientific community when asked that question, was that before the 'big bang' there was another 'big bang'.

                  On the question of science, what is everything made of ?
                  A 'postulated theory' suggests that it's a case of not having enough evidence to state that something is definitively the case - and not necessarily the opinion of the scientific community as a whole.
                  As for what everything is made of, I suggest a bit of light reading. I'm no scientist (and there will be far greater minds regarding this subject in the CCMB firmament) but this simple soul is currently reading two different books about the cosmos....

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                  • #39
                    Re: James Webb telescope

                    Originally posted by rudy gestede View Post
                    Have a read of short history of nearly everything by bill Bryson if you’re genuinely interested. It’s a nice summary and pitched at a level that’s understandable and entertaining.
                    I've read it [-as I have all his books]. Also Sapiens, etc, etc.

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                    • #40
                      Re: James Webb telescope

                      Originally posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
                      A 'postulated theory' suggests that it's a case of not having enough evidence to state that something is definitively the case - and not necessarily the opinion of the scientific community as a whole.
                      As for what everything is made of, I suggest a bit of light reading. I'm no scientist (and there will be far greater minds regarding this subject in the CCMB firmament) but this simple soul is currently reading two different books about the cosmos....
                      Good luck with that ! To answer my own question, once we've reached down to the absolute smallest known/identified 'particle', it turns out it's 'energy'. And 'energy' can only really be identified by how everything else reacts. So in essence, everything is actually nothing. Energy is a 'concept'. Just that.

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                      • #41
                        Re: James Webb telescope

                        Originally posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
                        Good luck with that ! To answer my own question, once we've reached down to the absolute smallest known/identified 'particle', it turns out it's 'energy'. And 'energy' can only really be identified by how everything else reacts. So in essence, everything is actually nothing. Energy is a 'concept'. Just that.
                        Thanks for explaining. I'll put down my two scientific tomes as they are obviously spinning things out to a ridiculous degree.

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                        • #42
                          Re: James Webb telescope

                          Originally posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
                          There was a clue: "and it's estimated that there are trillions of galaxies in the universe."
                          Yeah, do we believe all that guff though?

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                          • #43
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                            Originally posted by Joe Gillis View Post
                            Yeah, do we believe all that guff though?
                            which guff do you believe?

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                            • #44
                              Re: James Webb telescope

                              Originally posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
                              Good luck with that ! To answer my own question, once we've reached down to the absolute smallest known/identified 'particle', it turns out it's 'energy'. And 'energy' can only really be identified by how everything else reacts. So in essence, everything is actually nothing. Energy is a 'concept'. Just that.
                              Maybe solipsism is the key after all.

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                              • #45
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                                Originally posted by Dorcus View Post
                                Maybe solipsism is the key after all.
                                That’s so you that is. Always thinking about yourself!

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