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  • #16
    Re: DNA testing - results

    Originally posted by Cyclops View Post
    Many on here will know of my interest in tracing mine, and others, ancestry.

    In June, I sent my DNA for the Ancestry test. I had been sceptical of the value of DNA testing, but having watched some programs on TV and knowing that the DNA pool is much bigger these days, I thought I'd see what came back.

    I particularly wanted to see if there was a resolution to my question of who was my paternal grandfather - I had believed for years that he was ThomasC but then found a news report of an affiliation order which indicated he was in fact WCox. But I didn't really think there was much chance of closure here.

    I should mention that I hadn't put my tree on Ancestry, so there is no chance they have factored in my known details.

    I received my results yesterday. There were 247 close matches!

    One definitely confirmed that WCox was my grt grandfather. Worth the price of the test right there.

    But then it got weird.

    Ancestry ping the 247 people who had matches to my profile and halfway through the morning I had a message from a guy who wanted to compare ancestries. He gave me some names, but there were no obvious links. We got into detail and he mentioned a knowledge of the Hoxton area of London. I had ancestors living there in the 19thC. Now we got serious - bloodhounds on the scent!

    He told me there was a rumour in his family that his grandmother had an affair while married. He gave dates of when this likely happened. I replied with a family surname and that they were silversmiths. That was the 'Eureka' moment - the family rumour was that his Grannie had a fling with a silversmith.

    Cutting a long story short, it turned out we were talkling about his biological grandfather - he never believed that the man married to his grandmother was his grandfather. We narrowed the suspects down to two brothers. I sent pictures of the brothers and he came back with a positive ID. We knew the name of his grandfather. Further investigation put him in the same street as his grandfather (on paper) in 1901 and I even had a photo of his true grandfather in that street beside a car.

    I don't have to tell you how he was feeling. He said he was shaking. I discovered that he's a univeristy lecturer.

    Today, I put him in touch with his first cousin who is also a grandchild. I'd love to hear that conversation!

    The moral is - if you are interested, do the test
    (Memo to TBG)
    How much are those tests?

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    • #17
      Re: DNA testing - results

      Originally posted by OurManFlint II View Post
      Interesting and tragic story of DNA matching and the families that became entangled in a murder investigation.
      That's a great read - and illustrates the power of DNA matching.
      I can't emphasize how helpful the DNA evidence has been to me - to trace my grt grandfather for certain - and then his ancestors. Until now, half of me believed it was the other person to the extent that his callous behaviour after a particularly unpleasant robbery from the person of a dying man reminded me of my father. It transpires there is no connection whatsoever. I can write about it on a kite and let it fly away forever....

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      • #18
        Re: DNA testing - results

        Originally posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
        How much are those tests?
        They are usually £79 plus P&P (about £15). But Ancestry often run promotions, like around Fathers Day, for £59 (which is what I did).

        They provide updates regularly as the sample goes through the system and my results were back a fortnight earlier than I was expecting.

        There are different DNA tests for different results, but for my purposes the Ancestry test was definitely the one for me.

        I'm so pleased with the results that I've spent £15 on additional testing for my behavioural traits. I expect to be found to be amiable, easy-going, helpful to others, incredibly interested in people and offering to research others genealogy for stupid recompense.

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        • #19
          Re: DNA testing - results

          Originally posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
          My uncle started to do our family tree and found out my great great (maybe another great or two) Grandfather was really a Young (different surname to ours) as the original great great Grandfather had been hung for sheep rustling (at least I hope it was that lol) this one moved in and kept our Surname and dropped his own.
          Name changes are common. I've got two in my maternal family and my wife has one. I dont think Tuerto will mind me saying that there is one in his FH. That was a devil of a problem to unpick, but we got there in the end, even solving why it had happened.
          DNA testing can obviously help here to - the question to ask is if there's a match, but you don't know why, work thru the evidence.

          I should add that as well as my 247 close matches, there are thousands of other matches.

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          • #20
            Re: DNA testing - results

            How much are we talking for a test

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            • #21
              Re: DNA testing - results

              How far back can the direct DNA links go?
              Just curious as DNA testing in general isn't something that's been around for that many generations. Just wondering roughly how far back they can get?

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              • #22
                Re: DNA testing - results

                Originally posted by Ninja View Post
                How far back can the direct DNA links go?
                Just curious as DNA testing in general isn't something that's been around for that many generations. Just wondering roughly how far back they can get?
                My matches are mainly 4 to 6th cousins. For me, I have matches back to the start of the 19thC and some even earlier than that.
                My new grt grandfather was born in 1840 and his parents also showed up as a match.

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                • #23
                  Re: DNA testing - results

                  Originally posted by WJ99mobile View Post
                  How much are we talking for a test
                  See #18

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                  • #24
                    Re: DNA testing - results

                    Originally posted by Cyclops View Post
                    My matches are mainly 4 to 6th cousins. For me, I have matches back to the start of the 19thC and some even earlier than that.
                    My new grt grandfather was born in 1840 and his parents also showed up as a match.
                    Wow, a bit further back than I would have expected to be honest.
                    Is this dependent on how many family members further afield have actually had DNA profiles done at some point?

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                    • #25
                      Re: DNA testing - results

                      I should add to all this, understanding the results is complicated and folk may want to consult an expert to help.

                      The experience I related at the start of the thread should give an idea of difficulties which took a several hours to sort out.

                      Before I bought my test I bought "Tracing Your Ancestors Using DNA". That took some wading through!

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                      • #26
                        Re: DNA testing - results

                        Originally posted by Ninja View Post
                        Wow, a bit further back than I would have expected to be honest.
                        Is this dependent on how many family members further afield have actually had DNA profiles done at some point?
                        It is obviously down to who has sent in samples. I know for example that my uncles grandson has sent a sample because I recognised his name from the matches. Also, knowing the calibre of my true grt grandfather's family (council house workers and tenants) I was very doubtful that any one would have bothered sending their DNA. How wrong I was!

                        It's down to the pool of samples Ancestry have - which is getting bigger all the time. And when new samples match, they ping you - so it's on-going. Check out what I said earlier about using the Ancestry sample on other databases.

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                        • #27
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                          I should add some more provisos here.

                          If you are thinking of taking the test, think long and hard about the implications of making your DNA available to others. You may want to research the implications.

                          Also, if you've seen the ITV series 'DNA Family Secrets', you'll know the power of DNA matching. But you'll also know they work very closely with genealogists to process the results. I don't want to give a false impression that this process is easy. It'll take several days if not weeks to process what I've received. Some genealogists offer a paid service to explain the matches.

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                          • #28
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                            I watch Long lost family.It's very sad.One guy found his real father at the age of 88.
                            I'm an only child.Parents long gone.I don't some bugger knocking at the door and saying they want half of what's left.I've long spent it anyway.
                            Joking aside I'm thinking of doing a DNA test..I find it sad when people don't know their ancestry.

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                            • #29
                              Re: DNA testing - results

                              Originally posted by dandywarhol View Post
                              I watch Long lost family.It's very sad.One guy found his real father at the age of 88.
                              I'm an only child.Parents long gone.I don't some bugger knocking at the door and saying they want half of what's left.I've long spent it anyway.
                              Joking aside I'm thinking of doing a DNA test..I find it sad when people don't know their ancestry.
                              I strongly suggest you research your FH first. How will you know who your matches are without a family tree?

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                              • #30
                                Re: DNA testing - results

                                As a result of my DNA test submitted to ancestry.co.uk I am now in contact with a distant relative, an amoeba living in Popocatépetl.

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