Taking The Knee

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Taking The Knee

Kick it Out was established in 1993, it’s not really worked has it.

[JamesWales]

Re: Taking The Knee

Kick it Out was established in 1993, it’s not really worked has it.

You don't think the issue of racism in society or football is not better now than in 30 years ago?

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: Taking The Knee

Hope mine arrives in time for tomorrow's match.

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Isn't it a myth that Vikings never really wore such helmets?

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Taking The Knee

You don't think the issue of racism in society or football is not better now than in 30 years ago?

Not to an extent that the founders of Kick it Out would be satisfied with. Far from it.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Taking The Knee

I don't think that is true at all. And it comes with much less political baggage.

Kick it out is box ticking on a huge scale

Taking the knee is direct

And it pisses off and shuts up a lot of racists

They are not comparable

[JamesWales]

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Not to an extent that the founders of Kick it Out would be satisfied with. Far from it.

The goals are always moved though aren't they - I think the change in opinions in the country in 30 years is extraordinary. My personal opinion is that organisations like BLM actually risk reversing a generally more colour blind, racially harmonious society.

Certainly seems to be happening in the US - not all BLM related of course, but they contribute.

These guys are worth a follow on twitter IMO - A much more progressive way forward

https://twitter.com/DontDivideUsNow

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Absolutely my point exactly its all pretence and meaningless..

It's like the false adverts and roles on TV which portrays black people in false positions in life ...

Great idea your ticket hand out e mail the club ...

Which false positions in life are adverts and roles in TV portraying black people in?

[lardy]

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Isn't it a myth that Vikings never really wore such helmets?

So you're saying they did wear them...?

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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I don't like being told what to do and I don't like telling other people what to do. If players want to do it they are welcome to do so and no-one should discourage them from doing so. On the other hand, those who don't wish to partake shouldn't be pilloried or pressured. Simples.

[Feedback]

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Hope mine arrives in time for tomorrow's match.

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19th century trope! The Danes did not have horns on their helmets.

[Feedback]

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Genuine, serious question. What is Swansea's local demographic these days considering they play at The Liberty?

Travellers

[Baloo]

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19th century trope! The Danes did not have horns on their helmets.

That's disappointing.

[Citizen's Nephew]

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I don't like being told what to do and I don't like telling other people what to do. If players want to do it they are welcome to do so and no-one should discourage them from doing so. On the other hand, those who don't wish to partake shouldn't be pilloried or pressured. Simples.

[jon1959]

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19th century trope! The Danes did not have horns on their helmets.

Henry VIII did though!

Henry VIII horned helmet.jpg

[jon1959]

Re: Taking The Knee

A bit more content to the Swansea decision - although it still looks like abandoning what they call a 'token gesture' for.... nothing!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11061745/Swansea-players-NOT-knee-feeling-let-handling-alleged-racist-abuse.html