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    Percentage of 16 - 34 year old that are homeowners

    51% in 1991
    24% in 2016

    Salary as a percentage of average house prices
    2000 - 2005 18%
    2012 - 2017 12%

    These are basic facts that cannot be denied. It is harder to buy a house now than it was in the past.

    Source: https://www.moneysupermarket.com/mor...buyers-report/

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    • Re: Interest rates up 0.5%!

      Originally posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
      Well let's pass on Brexit - that's been done to death on here. I'm no expert on steel but haven't we been shelling out £millions for decades to keep production going ? I've done nothing to harm the environment any more than the 20-30yr olds today, and the economy ? Let's try and forget party politics if we can, but since 2000 we've had a really good couple of decades. Less of the MCG please !
      You can't pass on brexit as it is has an impact on our ability to employ people in the foundation economy across the board and a huge impact on people movement

      Our generation has been on the planet longer so of course we have had a bigger impact

      I'm apolitical if you see my previous post as they are all wank3rs and self serving tosspots

      Don't know what MCG is apart from the Melbourne cricket ground

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      • Re: Interest rates up 0.5%!

        Originally posted by Doucas View Post
        What I find fascinating with the tories on here is the weighting they place against various issues. So for example we have a £50 billion brexit bill to pay in addition to the £31 billion+ brexit is estimated to have cost in lost trade as of Q1 2021 (source - https://www.itv.com/news/2022-06-09/...research-finds) and probably a lot more on top of that, but this isn't a problem.

        In addition the tories have added on around £1.4 TRILLION to the debt pile (the majority of this was before covid) via economically illiterate policies, this isn't a problem either.

        But Gordon Brown cost us what, £10 billion 15 years ago and this is the problem! Incredible stuff.
        The cost of this policy is estimated to be between £2bn and £7bn which is pennies when compared to the losses built up by the current government through fraud, downright incompetence and criminality. Track and trace anyone? Build back loans? Unusable PPE? Crony contracts for Tory mates, pub landlords, etc? I could go on but you get the picture.

        But, as you say, it's somehow Labours fault for something that ended 20 years ago!

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        • Re: Interest rates up 0.5%!

          Originally posted by Lither_1927 View Post
          All the other stuff is minor, the primary driving factor behind house prices is demand created by population numbers. Everyone needs a house to live in you see. UK embraced mass immigration and now millenials can't afford a home and we have a housing crisis.
          Japan reject mass immigration and their house prices remained the same since 1997, enabling the next generation of their own population a chance to buy. Why are you attempting mental gymnastics in order to deny the blinding obvious?
          It's not just immigration that drives population growth. Tell the younger Japanese population to have more kids cos they've forgotten how to do that aswell.

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          • Re: Interest rates up 0.5%!

            Originally posted by Doucas View Post
            No it isn't me, but I've been told on this forum I am a champagne socialist, I've also been told I'm just jealous. All I've said is I'm doing alright.

            So for the fifth time, what is the exact amount of wealth I should have before I can complain about inequality.

            Where did I say I couldn't buy a house? Is it harder to buy a house now than it was in the 70s, yes or no?
            Not a champagne socialist then.

            Doing alright what does that mean, it's subjective?

            You appear jealous, you have a deluded view that older people had an easier life?

            Any amount, it's a free Country?

            You've said before it's too hard for you to get on the market, because all the old people grafted and bought them?

            It's the same sales process as the 70's I think, just as easy go to a solicitor they do the paperwork for you, probably a bit easier these days actually because they can send some forms via the internet, we had to keep going to the solicitors office.

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            • Re: Interest rates up 0.5%!

              Originally posted by Doucas View Post
              Percentage of 16 - 34 year old that are homeowners

              51% in 1991
              24% in 2016

              Salary as a percentage of average house prices
              2000 - 2005 18%
              2012 - 2017 12%

              These are basic facts that cannot be denied. It is harder to buy a house now than it was in the past.

              Source: https://www.moneysupermarket.com/mor...buyers-report/
              That just shows how many people own a house?

              It could be that youngsters then left school, jot a job, saved some money, bought a house, and now youngsters prefer to piss it up in university rack up debt, go on a jolly around the World for 3 years, come back and go time to settle now lets by a house, oh dear I can't i've got no savings an average job, shed loads of debt, and it's all the torries fault.

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              • Re: Interest rates up 0.5%!

                Originally posted by Doucas View Post
                Percentage of 16 - 34 year old that are homeowners

                51% in 1991
                24% in 2016

                Salary as a percentage of average house prices
                2000 - 2005 18%
                2012 - 2017 12%

                These are basic facts that cannot be denied. It is harder to buy a house now than it was in the past.

                Source: https://www.moneysupermarket.com/mor...buyers-report/
                Salary to house price is a stupid measure, the mortgage rate was much more then, now it's peanuts, but not for long, so house prices will reduce.



                UK average house price falls for the first time in a year to £293,221

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                • Re: Interest rates up 0.5%!

                  Originally posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
                  Not a champagne socialist then.

                  Doing alright what does that mean, it's subjective?

                  You appear jealous, you have a deluded view that older people had an easier life?

                  Any amount, it's a free Country?

                  You've said before it's too hard for you to get on the market, because all the old people grafted and bought them?

                  It's the same sales process as the 70's I think, just as easy go to a solicitor they do the paperwork for you, probably a bit easier these days actually because they can send some forms via the internet, we had to keep going to the solicitors office.
                  Off topic slightly, when I was doing HNC business studies in night school, every Saturday I had to spend a few hours in central library researching topics for upcoming assignments.

                  Nowadays most reasonable research can be obtained from the comfort of your own home. Much easier IMHO

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                  • Re: Interest rates up 0.5%!

                    Originally posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
                    That just shows how many people own a house?

                    It could be that youngsters then left school, jot a job, saved some money, bought a house, and now youngsters prefer to piss it up in university rack up debt, go on a jolly around the World for 3 years, come back and go time to settle now lets by a house, oh dear I can't i've got no savings an average job, shed loads of debt, and it's all the torries fault.
                    Name 3 young people that you know that been travelling round the world for 3 years

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                    • Re: Interest rates up 0.5%!

                      Originally posted by delmbox View Post
                      Name 3 young people that you know that been travelling round the world for 3 years
                      I ****ing hate tory students

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                      • Re: Interest rates up 0.5%!

                        Originally posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
                        Salary to house price is a stupid measure, the mortgage rate was much more then, now it's peanuts, but not for long, so house prices will reduce.



                        UK average house price falls for the first time in a year to £293,221
                        Okay boomer.

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                        • Re: Interest rates up 0.5%!

                          Originally posted by delmbox View Post
                          Name 3 young people that you know that been travelling round the world for 3 years
                          Greta Thunberg for one 🙂

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                          • Re: Interest rates up 0.5%!

                            Originally posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
                            That just shows how many people own a house?

                            It could be that youngsters then left school, jot a job, saved some money, bought a house, and now youngsters prefer to piss it up in university rack up debt, go on a jolly around the World for 3 years, come back and go time to settle now lets by a house, oh dear I can't i've got no savings an average job, shed loads of debt, and it's all the torries fault.
                            Yeah the Torries a obviously a bunch of tw*ts but I’ve not heard much about them, on the other hand those Conservatives are a right tribe of shite.

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                            • Re: Interest rates up 0.5%!

                              Originally posted by delmbox View Post
                              Name 3 young people that you know that been travelling round the world for 3 years
                              My mates two boys, and my other mate’s daughter. It might be extreme but plenty go for a year or so, lots take a year out too.

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                              • Re: Interest rates up 0.5%!

                                Originally posted by delmbox View Post
                                Name 3 young people that you know that been travelling round the world for 3 years
                                I know quite a few, but I know quite a few hippy like people. Most worked though, like 7/8 months here then go to India for 4 months and live for peanuts all winter. I took a grand with me when I went to India, lasted me 2 months. When I was 19 I went off to Oz etc for 18 months but worked a lot, came home with about £4K saved which was enough to put a deposit down on a flat….
                                One big difference is the amount of debt most students rack up, back in 1990 ish most I knew had no real debts, some even had grants, not loans. Nowadays £50k is average isn’t it? That’s not a great way to start out is it…..

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