Manchester United, oh dear.

[Ninja]

Re: Manchester United, oh dear.

Got lucky in the 1990 semi final as well, that saved his skin.

Agreed, wasn't it Mark Robins or someone that basically saved his career at Utd?

[ToTaL ITK]

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Yep! just like us! one loss and relegation fodder

[the other bob wilson]

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Agreed, wasn't it Mark Robins or someone that basically saved his career at Utd?

Robins scored a winning goal in a tricky Third Round FA Cup tie at Forest when it was generally felt that they would go out and Fergie would lose his job - he’d been in charge for something like three or four ears then and there been no real sign of improvement, but after they won the Cup, all of the pressure he was under disappeared.

[Ninja]

Re: Manchester United, oh dear.

Robins scored a winning goal in a tricky Third Round FA Cup tie at Forest when it was generally felt that they would go out and Fergie would lose his job - he’d been in charge for something like three or four ears then and there been no real sign of improvement, but after they won the Cup, all of the pressure he was under disappeared.

Funny how things pan out. Warnock is arguably a better manager :hehe:

[Vindec]

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And Brighton should have had a penalty as well. It was a good performance by them especially as they seem to sell their best players.

[2b2bdoo]

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They need a clear out but don’t seem capable of doing it.

[Mario Miethig]

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I would argue that Fergie himself got somewhat lucky to a certain degree though.
What would he have achieved without that class of 92 coming through....
He did sign some great players to be fair to him, but he might not have been there to sign them in the first place if that crop hadn't have come through when they did.

Think the signing of Cantona was what ignited United’s dominance at the start of the Premier League era. Signed from Leeds after their title success in 92.
Don’t think many of the class of 92 were regulars during United’s first title season under Ferguson.

[B. Oddie]

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Don’t know if it’s my eyesight, my TV, or his new haircut, but Danny Welbeck looks a lot older this season.

He's no spring chicken these days. He's 32 this year.

[Ninja]

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Think the signing of Cantona was what ignited United’s dominance at the start of the Premier League era. Signed from Leeds after their title success in 92.
Don’t think many of the class of 92 were regulars during United’s first title season under Ferguson.

*Cough* Scholes, Giggs, Butt, Beckham, both Nevilles's...
Are you being serious?

[LeningradCowboy]

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*Cough* Scholes, Giggs, Butt, Beckham, both Nevilles's...
Are you being serious?

Giggs was the only one of those players to feature regularly for Man Utd in 1992/93.

I've just seen that Darren Ferguson made 15 appearances for them that season, so nepotism is one thing that Sir Alex and Sir Neil have in common.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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Robins scored a winning goal in a tricky Third Round FA Cup tie at Forest when it was generally felt that they would go out and Fergie would lose his job - he’d been in charge for something like three or four ears then and there been no real sign of improvement, but after they won the Cup, all of the pressure he was under disappeared.

That 89/90 season was one where United struggled, were close to the relegation zone for most of it and had shown another season of decline under Ferguson. Liverpool lost a classic FA cup semi to Palace. Villa, unlikely league runners up, lost at Oldham on the plastic pitch. All the big sides fell away, leaving the door open for an average United side to win the cup after a replay. Mark Robins was a scoring sensation at the end of the season and kept them up.

The following season saw what I thought was a defining moment. Arsenal, unbeaten at home all season, played United in a league cup game at Highbury. United were 3-0 up in no time but Arsenal pulled it back to 3-2. United were scintillating in attack and won 6-2. Arsenal won the league, losing only once all season. They conceded 18 at home in the league all season and were unbeaten, yet in that one game they were absolutely battered. If I remember correctly, United played quite a few youngsters in that game. 2 years later they won the league.

United won the first PL with 84 points. That was for a 42 game season, which equates to 78 points for a 38 game season. Only once has the PL champions in a 38 game season won less than 78 points, ironically United in 1997

[Alan Lung]

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Sludge must be gutted. Or is it Liverpool he's into?

[Ninja]

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Giggs was the only one of those players to feature regularly for Man Utd in 1992/93.

I've just seen that Darren Ferguson made 15 appearances for them that season, so nepotism is one thing that Sir Alex and Sir Neil have in common.

Having Bryan Robson, Pallister, Irwin, Bruce, Schmeichel, Parker, Ince, Kanchelskis, Mark Hughes, Brian McClair etc, I'm sure would have helped them win the league also.
To be fair to Fergie, I'm bleating about the class of 92, but he did sign some damn good players outside of those "kids".
Keane being another.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Sludge must be gutted. Or is it Liverpool he's into?

I hate them both

[Carl Dale's Mole]

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Wrong thread :hehe: