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  • #61
    Re: Brexit and the Bluebirds

    Originally posted by WJ99mobile View Post
    My point is Steve Morrisons job of recruitment is no more difficult than any other manager in the division
    Well, apart from our (and Swansea's) well documented disadvantage in the loan market.

    Not to wade into another Brexit debate, because I'd honestly rather shit in my hands and clap, but I wonder if Che Nunelly was one of the players who didn't have enough points? Was seemingly marked as a done deal by most of the Twitter accounts that were on the ball with other signings.

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    • #62
      Re: Brexit and the Bluebirds

      Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
      It takes mere seconds to work out the current inflation rates, which for June 2022 are:

      European Union: 9.6%
      United Kingdon: 9.4%

      https://tradingeconomics.com/country...ntinent=europe
      Exactly global supply issues and fuel energy prices are the driver not Brexit so far, although demand for good staff in the UK could be a problem in the future?

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      • #63
        Re: Brexit and the Bluebirds

        Originally posted by FormerlyJohnnyBreadhead View Post
        Well, apart from our (and Swansea's) well documented disadvantage in the loan market.

        Not to wade into another Brexit debate, because I'd honestly rather shit in my hands and clap, but I wonder if Che Nunelly was one of the players who didn't have enough points? Was seemingly marked as a done deal by most of the Twitter accounts that were on the ball with other signings.
        according to a website I just looked at they reckon he'd have 17 points and that should be enough

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        • #64
          Re: Brexit and the Bluebirds

          Originally posted by FormerlyJohnnyBreadhead View Post
          Well, apart from our (and Swansea's) well documented disadvantage in the loan market.

          Not to wade into another Brexit debate, because I'd honestly rather shit in my hands and clap, but I wonder if Che Nunelly was one of the players who didn't have enough points? Was seemingly marked as a done deal by most of the Twitter accounts that were on the ball with other signings.
          You’d hope they’d have checked that before the deal was ‘done’

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          • #65
            Re: Brexit and the Bluebirds

            Originally posted by delmbox View Post
            Morison definitely voted leave
            Good man.

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            • #66
              Re: Brexit and the Bluebirds

              Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
              It takes mere seconds to work out the current inflation rates, which for June 2022 are:

              European Union: 9.6%
              United Kingdon: 9.4%

              https://tradingeconomics.com/country...ntinent=europe
              Killed em..

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              • #67
                Re: Brexit and the Bluebirds

                Originally posted by Vindec View Post
                Given the BREXIT situation I wonder why the Bosman ruling remains applicable in football?
                I presumed Bosman is about personal contracts however saw this

                " Brexit has ended the free movement of labour between the UK and the EU. To this extent, it represents a reversal of the Bosman ruling. Clubs wishing to sign foreign players must now apply for a work permit, irrespective of whether these players are moving from EU or non-EU clubs"

                I guess the work permit is key ..

                On a related matter I feel the Boseman ruling has been slightly abused somewhat by greedy players and agents when they use the g the run down of contracts , as a result a club like the City loses a potential transfer fee with the player being tapped up in a pre contract discussion to bolster his wages for the saving the buying club benefits from , yes you could offer a new contract but that only helps the money clubs ,yes you tie them into longer contracts all of which effects the poorer clubs in my humble view as they cant finance such arrangements

                Boseman

                "The Bosman ruling meant that players could move to a new club at the end of their contract without their old club receiving a fee. Players can now agree a pre-contract with another club for a free transfer if the players' contract with their existing club has six months or less remaining""

                What id like to know to know folk who wanted to n in EU and its free trade movement ,does this provide more opportunities for UK footballing youngsters ??

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                • #68
                  Re: Brexit and the Bluebirds



                  here's a good description of how the new points system works.
                  if they aren't playing for a top nation, or in a good league then you can basically forget it looking at this.

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                  • #69
                    Re: Brexit and the Bluebirds

                    Originally posted by Rjk View Post
                    https://www.google.com/amp/s/worldfo...ertadores/amp/

                    here's a good description of how the new points system works.
                    if they aren't playing for a top nation, or in a good league then you can basically forget it looking at this.
                    So the best players from the best leagues can more easily come to the UK and the alternative is that clubs invest in British talent?

                    Sounds like an okay system to be honest.

                    And if it doesn't work, it can be changed.

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                    • #70
                      Re: Brexit and the Bluebirds

                      Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                      So the best players from the best leagues can more easily come to the UK and the alternative is that clubs invest in British talent?

                      Sounds like an okay system to be honest.

                      And if it doesn't work, it can be changed.
                      but like I said, it makes it more difficult for anyone to bridge the gap to the biggest clubs.
                      Wigan, Brentford, Leicester all managed to uncover gems that escaped the radars of the top clubs. that route no longer exists, and if you do create some home grown talent that can get poached by the big clubs too

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                      • #71
                        Re: Brexit and the Bluebirds

                        Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                        So the best players from the best leagues can more easily come to the UK and the alternative is that clubs invest in British talent?

                        Sounds like an okay system to be honest.

                        And if it doesn't work, it can be changed.
                        Stop talking sense, Brexit is to blame for everything.

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                        • #72
                          Re: Brexit and the Bluebirds

                          Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                          It takes mere seconds to work out the current inflation rates, which for June 2022 are:

                          European Union: 9.6%
                          United Kingdon: 9.4%

                          https://tradingeconomics.com/country...ntinent=europe

                          The big three EU states:
                          France 6.1%
                          Germany: 7.5%
                          Italy: 7.9%

                          and then there's the UK: 9.4%

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                          • #73
                            Re: Brexit and the Bluebirds

                            Originally posted by superflyblues View Post
                            The big three EU states:
                            France 6.1%
                            Germany: 7.5%
                            Italy: 7.9%

                            and then there's the UK: 9.4%
                            Where do you hire your cherry picker from mate?

                            Inflation is nothing to do with a countries size. You need to compare like with like. The debate here seems to be that Brexit has caused inflation (it hasn't) and so we should compare the UK with the EU. Inflation is currently higher in the EU..

                            You compare the biggest 3 for some reason. Why don't we compare the UK with the biggest 7 EU countries?

                            Poland - 15.5%
                            Romania - 15.05%
                            Spain 10.8%
                            Netherlands - 10.3%
                            UK - 9.4%
                            Italy - 7.9%
                            Germany - 7.5%
                            France - 6.1%

                            This page displays a table with actual values, consensus figures, forecasts, statistics and historical data charts for - Inflation Rate. This page provides values for Inflation Rate reported in several countries part of Europe. The table has current values for Inflation Rate, previous releases, historical highs and record lows, release frequency, reported unit and currency plus links to historical data charts.


                            If you move the goalposts, you get a different result. And next month it will change again. The fact is inflation is not being caused by Brexit, it's high everywhere and is slightly higher in the EU at the moment. The causes lie elsewhere.

                            FWIW, comparing the UK with the G20 is perhaps the most useful way to analyse anything. G7 is a very small and selective group.

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                            • #74
                              Re: Brexit and the Bluebirds

                              Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                              Where do you hire your cherry picker from mate?

                              Inflation is nothing to do with a countries size. You need to compare like with like. The debate here seems to be that Brexit has caused inflation (it hasn't) and so we should compare the UK with the EU. Inflation is currently higher in the EU..

                              You compare the biggest 3 for some reason. Why don't we compare the UK with the biggest 7 EU countries?

                              Poland - 15.5%
                              Romania - 15.05%
                              Spain 10.8%
                              Netherlands - 10.3%
                              UK - 9.4%
                              Italy - 7.9%
                              Germany - 7.5%
                              France - 6.1%

                              This page displays a table with actual values, consensus figures, forecasts, statistics and historical data charts for - Inflation Rate. This page provides values for Inflation Rate reported in several countries part of Europe. The table has current values for Inflation Rate, previous releases, historical highs and record lows, release frequency, reported unit and currency plus links to historical data charts.


                              If you move the goalposts, you get a different result. And next month it will change again. The fact is inflation is not being caused by Brexit, it's high everywhere and is slightly higher in the EU at the moment. The causes lie elsewhere.

                              FWIW, comparing the UK with the G20 is perhaps the most useful way to analyse anything. G7 is a very small and selective group.

                              I picked the biggest three because they are in the G7, like the UK. It makes more sense to compare the UK to G7 countries than a EU average that includes lots of very small economies (Estonia is half the size of Wales) and countries bordering a war.

                              How does the UK’s inflation rate compare to the other G7 countries? What are the forecasts for the UK economy for the next 18 months and beyond? It’s not great, is it?

                              Nobody suggests Brexit is the cause of inflation, but it plays a part and makes dealing with it and fuelling growth that much more challenging. We have barriers to trade with the worlds biggest market, our biggest trading partner (50% of UK foreign trade in goods in 2019), that we didn’t have before. And we haven’t even implemented the checks for food imports yet. So the damage of Brexit isn’t even fully impacting. Those checks when implemented, do you think they will help with inflationary pressures?

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