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So if we averaged 31.5k in a PL relegation season, you don't think we could ever improve on that if we held our own and spent several seasons in the top flight and had the capacity to reach 40k? Is it the mushrooms this time or something herbal?

This region has a history of not supporting its sports teams very well

South Wales is a big events place , we can pull big crowds but not on a consistent basis

I know it's hard to accept but it's true . I would love to see us packed out with a waiting list for season tickets but it's not going to happen .

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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Away with the pixies you are

If we are getting a hardcore of 16 k then obviously our gates will drop quite considerably if we get relegated

It's hard enough getting em through the door now

Over to you, then.

How many clubs see their crowds drop after relegation to League 1? Why would we be any different.

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This region has a history of not supporting its sports teams very well

South Wales is a big events place , we can pull big crowds but not on a consistent basis

I know it's hard to accept but it's true . I would love to see us packed out with a waiting list for season tickets but it's not going to happen .

Hang on, we were close to capacity for every home game in a relegation season in the PL. That's pretty consistent.

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Over to you, then.

How many clubs see their crowds drop after relegation to League 1? Why would we be any different.

I can't be arsed

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Hang on, we were close to capacity for every home game in a relegation season in the PL. That's pretty consistent.

Yes for one season

It wouldn't take fans long to complain about boring football to have an excuse

When I was supporting CCFC in the dungeon we were under the illusion that success would bring the crowds

It hasn't really has it ?

I mean considering the size of our support area ?

It's been very disappointing

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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Yes for one season

It wouldn't take fans long to complain about boring football to have an excuse

When I was supporting CCFC in the dungeon we were under the illusion that success would bring the crowds

It hasn't really has it ?

I mean considering the size of our support area ?

It's been very disappointing

There's absolutely no evidence to suggest that your opinion would happen. You're going by pure gut instinct because you have a downer on our fan base as a whole.

Define success.

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I can't be arsed

Precisely. You know I've won this one.

[Canton Kev]

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Yes for one season

It wouldn't take fans long to complain about boring football to have an excuse

When I was supporting CCFC in the dungeon we were under the illusion that success would bring the crowds

It hasn't really has it ?

I mean considering the size of our support area ?

It's been very disappointing

How many clubs in the Premier League have seen their crowds decrease after several seasons staying there?

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[QUOTE=Eric the Half a Bee;5330953]There's absolutely no evidence to suggest that your opinion would happen. You're going by pure gut instinct because you have a downer on our fan base as a whole.

Honestly I can't be arsed

You can get your little book out all day long

If you think success has brought increased crowds to Cardiff city you are ignoring the very facts you like to wax about

15500 v Leeds

Great win

4 days later

9500

And this sort of event has been a regular occurance in this clubs history

Big game .....oh let's have some of that

Few games later ......can't be bothered

Deny it all you want , it's always been the same

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How many clubs in the Premier League have seen their crowds decrease after several seasons staying there?

Ask statto

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Precisely. You know I've won this one.

No , I just don't want to waste my evening , I have an interesting boxing documentary to watch

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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How many clubs in the Premier League have seen their crowds decrease after several seasons staying there?

Current trends suggest none do. Any drops are negligible. The pull of the Premier League is immense. Cardiff vs Huddersfield in the PL brought 30k fans into the ground. A season later and almost 9k less were there for a Championship fixture. It was just over half that PL crowd last November.

The days of Division 1,2,3&4 are almost irrelevant nowadays. The Premier League is the behemoth of English football. That's not to belittle any of the other divisions, but the PL is far bigger now than the 1st Division ever was, by such a huge margin.

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There's absolutely no evidence to suggest that your opinion would happen. You're going by pure gut instinct because you have a downer on our fan base as a whole.

Honestly I can't be arsed

You can get your little book out all day long

If you think success has brought increased crowds to Cardiff city you are ignoring the very facts you like to wax about

15500 v Leeds

Great win

4 days later

9500

And this sort of event has been a regular occurance in this clubs history

Big game .....oh let's have some of that

Few games later ......can't be bothered

Deny it all you want , it's always been the same

That was 17 years ago. You're using isolated examples. It certainly hasn't been the same over the last decade or so. I've asked you to define success.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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No , I just don't want to waste my evening , I have an interesting boxing documentary to watch

You don't want to waste it trying to find something you won't find.

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That was 17 years ago. You're using isolated examples. It certainly hasn't been the same over the last decade or so. I've asked you to define success.

We have had considerable success by our standards since arriving in the championship

Play off finishes

Wembley appearances

Promotion

League Cup Final

FA Cup Final

Our current level of support you think is good ?

Mmmm