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No noise at all tbh- was completely silent last year, bar 99% of the block I was sat in endlessly moaning and whinging of course.Originally posted by City123 View PostThe issue isn't the location of the Canton, it's that the Ninian makes very little noise in comparison so the sound doesn't go around the ground
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Yeah if fans want to be near the away fans and sing why don’t they just buy tickets that end of the Ninian? Or did they and the club stopped them or something bizarre? I can’t recall. Maybe they should just encourage that and the atmosphere and noise would be far louder akin to Wales games when more than one stand joins in and it sounds topOriginally posted by City123 View PostThe issue isn't the location of the Canton, it's that the Ninian makes very little noise in comparison so the sound doesn't go around the ground
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The majority of Andrew Tate's fans, the Tate-r Tots, are perennially online virgins and incels who would literally shit themselves at the first sign of anything kicking off.Originally posted by Citizen's Nephew View Post
Tate's a pick-up artist, groomer and nonce. It's why they like the stupid c***.
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We do have opposing fans next to the away fans.Originally posted by Canton Kev View PostBut other clubs have shown that a safe stadium is still possible with opposing fans next to each other. Unless you think Cardiff City would be the exception?
Back when our hooligan element was at its worst we were getting ~4k at games. Now we get 20k. Our club has (thankfully) become much more accessible to families and younger fans and our hooligan element is all but gone. Not only that, the idiots that used to enjoy getting into fights and running riot with the police are in their 50’s and 60’s now. I’d imagine they’re all bark and no bite these days.
I would argue any trouble from our fans is more likely to happen at away games than home games as that’s the more hardcore support and they’re more drunk and drugged up. How many away games in the past decade have had trouble? Bristol last year, Man City in 2014 and a bit further back, Chelsea in 2010. That’s all I can recall at the moment, perhaps there’s others.
These days fans drink in the same pubs and walk down the same streets after games and mingle. I don’t expect simply switching the ends would change that.
Ive been in the Family and Ninian and the atmosphere was better in the Family Stand.
The Canton Stand do sing. The Ninian Stand atmosphere is poor.
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More expensive and the Canton is the designated standing area. Has been for years. I know in the past the club have asked stewards to stop people from standing in the Ninian.Originally posted by goats View PostYeah if fans want to be near the away fans and sing why don’t they just buy tickets that end of the Ninian? Or did they and the club stopped them or something bizarre? I can’t recall. Maybe they should just encourage that and the atmosphere and noise would be far louder akin to Wales games when more than one stand joins in and it sounds top
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You obviously are dead against it and were quite insulting earlier in the thread. I’ve been away plenty of times and our section has been next to the vocal home fans, I’ve not been intimidated once. The idiots goading each other are usually about twenty strong and site themselves as near to each other as possible, it certainly doesn’t affect the vast majority on both sides who are intent on watching the game. You sound like one of those people who never go and ask you in the pub after ‘Any trouble down there?’.Originally posted by Eric the Half a Bee View PostOut of curiosity, who feels that away fans coming to Cardiff should be intimidated or should they be able to enjoy a game without idiots goading them?
A bit of edge adds to the atmosphere and everyone mixes outside the ground without a pick of bother. Perhaps it’s you who can’t help himself and, when near the opposing fans, has to watch them rather than the match.
I’m just all for improving the atmosphere at our ground, it gets quite embarrassing on times when our support is completely drowned out by the away fans (it does seem that the acoustics are better at the Grange End) if we go behind in a game. Whereas that is the precise time the team needs the backing and, in my opinion, home fans near the away fans, rather than go into their shell when their team is losing up their game to match the the away support. It certainly happened at a Reading the other Saturday and has happened a few times at the Hawthorns.
Unfortunately you still seem to be stuck in the ‘hooligan, let’s get over the fence era’. Thankfully fans mix freely outside grounds now, get buses together, nobody is still charging up and down Sloper Rd. What goes on in the ground, stays in the ground.
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I believe the issue on atmosphere is the Ninian Stand. Its really poor. Surely some groups in there want to sing.?Originally posted by splott parker View PostYou obviously are dead against it and were quite insulting earlier in the thread. I’ve been away plenty of times and our section has been next to the vocal home fans, I’ve not been intimidated once. The idiots goading each other are usually about twenty strong and site themselves as near to each other as possible, it certainly doesn’t affect the vast majority on both sides who are intent on watching the game. You sound like one of those people who never go and ask you in the pub after ‘Any trouble down there?’.
A bit of edge adds to the atmosphere and everyone mixes outside the ground without a pick of bother. Perhaps it’s you who can’t help himself and, when near the opposing fans, has to watch them rather than the match.
I’m just all for improving the atmosphere at our ground, it gets quite embarrassing on times when our support is completely drowned out by the away fans (it does seem that the acoustics are better at the Grange End) if we go behind in a game. Whereas that is the precise time the team needs the backing and, in my opinion, home fans near the away fans, rather than go into their shell when their team is losing up their game to match the the away support. It certainly happened at a Reading the other Saturday and has happened a few times at the Hawthorns.
Unfortunately you still seem to be stuck in the ‘hooligan, let’s get over the fence era’. Thankfully fans mix freely outside grounds now, get buses together, nobody is still charging up and down Sloper Rd. What goes on in the ground, stays in the ground.
However for arguments sake they looked at switching the Canton always seems to be full. Who decides who moves across into a smaller area. Less fans in less face it the only vocal area.
Or do we move the away fans into part of the Ninian?
Also think your wrong on potential issues. Games v Swansea the wurzels Millwall there
is definitely potential for trouble.
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Has there ever been any trouble at the ccs? Or outside more likely? Anywhere in the city in the last 15/20 years football related? There will always be a group of young idiots at every ground but like SP says, who cares? You going to get angry and jump over the seats and through the stewards to get them? Of course not….those days have gone, long gone.Originally posted by splott parker View PostYou obviously are dead against it and were quite insulting earlier in the thread. I’ve been away plenty of times and our section has been next to the vocal home fans, I’ve not been intimidated once. The idiots goading each other are usually about twenty strong and site themselves as near to each other as possible, it certainly doesn’t affect the vast majority on both sides who are intent on watching the game. You sound like one of those people who never go and ask you in the pub after ‘Any trouble down there?’.
A bit of edge adds to the atmosphere and everyone mixes outside the ground without a pick of bother. Perhaps it’s you who can’t help himself and, when near the opposing fans, has to watch them rather than the match.
I’m just all for improving the atmosphere at our ground, it gets quite embarrassing on times when our support is completely drowned out by the away fans (it does seem that the acoustics are better at the Grange End) if we go behind in a game. Whereas that is the precise time the team needs the backing and, in my opinion, home fans near the away fans, rather than go into their shell when their team is losing up their game to match the the away support. It certainly happened at a Reading the other Saturday and has happened a few times at the Hawthorns.
Unfortunately you still seem to be stuck in the ‘hooligan, let’s get over the fence era’. Thankfully fans mix freely outside grounds now, get buses together, nobody is still charging up and down Sloper Rd. What goes on in the ground, stays in the ground.
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The Ninian stand is the problemOriginally posted by splott parker View PostYou obviously are dead against it and were quite insulting earlier in the thread. I’ve been away plenty of times and our section has been next to the vocal home fans, I’ve not been intimidated once. The idiots goading each other are usually about twenty strong and site themselves as near to each other as possible, it certainly doesn’t affect the vast majority on both sides who are intent on watching the game. You sound like one of those people who never go and ask you in the pub after ‘Any trouble down there?’.
A bit of edge adds to the atmosphere and everyone mixes outside the ground without a pick of bother. Perhaps it’s you who can’t help himself and, when near the opposing fans, has to watch them rather than the match.
I’m just all for improving the atmosphere at our ground, it gets quite embarrassing on times when our support is completely drowned out by the away fans (it does seem that the acoustics are better at the Grange End) if we go behind in a game. Whereas that is the precise time the team needs the backing and, in my opinion, home fans near the away fans, rather than go into their shell when their team is losing up their game to match the the away support. It certainly happened at a Reading the other Saturday and has happened a few times at the Hawthorns.
Unfortunately you still seem to be stuck in the ‘hooligan, let’s get over the fence era’. Thankfully fans mix freely outside grounds now, get buses together, nobody is still charging up and down Sloper Rd. What goes on in the ground, stays in the ground.
Wales games show the layout of the stadium is fine, you just need more than one stand making noise
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