Cadiff city fan threatened with assault after challenging homophobic abuse

[blue matt]

Re: Cadiff city fan threatened with assault after challenging homophobic abuse

Threatening to chin someone isn't having an opinion.

not really what happened though or what I said

“There were a few words exchanged and a guy sitting on my row then turned towards me and said: ‘What are you doing, there’s no need for this, just leave it out.’ Then I told him that I wasn’t interested in discussing it with him and I just wanted to watch the game.


the guy had a opinion that " he should just leave it at that " maybe he could see things were going escalate with the abuser and Cennydd

Cennydd might have used a slightly different way to shut the guy down ( not the abuser, the guy sat on his row ) I told him that " I wasn’t interested in discussing it with him " , it does come across as a little confrontational (which I guess Cennydd adrenaline was pumping after his calling out of the abuser )

[blue matt]

Re: Cadiff city fan threatened with assault after challenging homophobic abuse

You consider demanding (under threat of violence) silence from someone who objects to homophobia as valid as calling out homophobia?

Not for me.

no I dont, and I never said I did

I was pointing out, it was great to call out the abuser, but when someone has a opinion that it maybe time to leave it, to be shut down like he was maybe not the right way to go about it

[Claude Blue]

Re: Cadiff city fan threatened with assault after challenging homophobic abuse

fair play to the guy for speaking out, he had his say, told the guy it was unacceptable, job done, I wouldn't have thought it would have made much of a difference to the abusers opinion, but we can hope

then this happened

“There were a few words exchanged and a guy sitting on my row then turned towards me and said: ‘What are you doing, there’s no need for this, just leave it out.’ Then I told him that I wasn’t interested in discussing it with him and I just wanted to watch the game. Then he told me if I didn’t shut up he was going to hit me.”

if you feel like you can have your say and call out the abuser, good for you, but someone else can equally have his opinion ( and voice it ) and ask what are you doing, no need for this etc etc , yet the guy decided to shut him down and tell him he wasnt interested in discussing it ( the other guys opinion ) , then the threat of being hit, this happens in the real world, its not twitter where you can shut someone down without a care in the world

So threatening to hit someone is just having a different opinion?

Having a go at someone who's bravely called out homophobic abuse is clearly acceptable to you. Would you apply the same rule towards racist abuse? Sexist language? Or are just gay people fair game in your world?

Very concerning that a so-called moderator on here can hold such antiquated views.

[blue matt]

Re: Cadiff city fan threatened with assault after challenging homophobic abuse

So threatening to hit someone is just having a different opinion?

Having a go at someone who's bravely called out homophobic abuse is clearly acceptable to you. Would you apply the same rule towards racist abuse? Sexist language? Or are just gay people fair game in your world?

Very concerning that a so-called moderator on here can hold such antiquated views.

not really what I said

but incase you missed it, I started of with

fair play to the guy for speaking out, he had his say, told the guy it was unacceptable, job done, I wouldn't have thought it would have made much of a difference to the abusers opinion, but we can hope

[jon1959]

Re: Cadiff city fan threatened with assault after challenging homophobic abuse

not really what I said

but incase you missed it, I started of with

fair play to the guy for speaking out, he had his say, told the guy it was unacceptable, job done, I wouldn't have thought it would have made much of a difference to the abusers opinion, but we can hope

It wasn't what you started out with that is the problem. It is what you finished with. Just read back your own words - not good.

[Claude Blue]

Re: Cadiff city fan threatened with assault after challenging homophobic abuse

not really what I said

but incase you missed it, I started of with

fair play to the guy for speaking out, he had his say, told the guy it was unacceptable, job done, I wouldn't have thought it would have made much of a difference to the abusers opinion, but we can hope

Funny that you left off your final paragraph which contains your view that threatening to hit the guy is just having a different opinion.

You also attach blame to Cennydd as you feel he was confrontational to the second guy by merely stating that he had no desire to discuss the matter with him. The fact that he was then threatened with violence suggests Cennydds approach was correct i.e. back away.

[Tuerto]

Re: Cadiff city fan threatened with assault after challenging homophobic abuse

not really what happened though or what I said

“There were a few words exchanged and a guy sitting on my row then turned towards me and said: ‘What are you doing, there’s no need for this, just leave it out.’ Then I told him that I wasn’t interested in discussing it with him and I just wanted to watch the game.


the guy had a opinion that " he should just leave it at that " maybe he could see things were going escalate with the abuser and Cennydd

Cennydd might have used a slightly different way to shut the guy down ( not the abuser, the guy sat on his row ) I told him that " I wasn’t interested in discussing it with him " , it does come across as a little confrontational (which I guess Cennydd adrenaline was pumping after his calling out of the abuser )

"I don't want to discuss it with you" is confrontational? Behave Matt, stop excusing shit behaviour.

[ToTaL ITK]

Re: Cadiff city fan threatened with assault after challenging homophobic abuse

Homosexuality has been around for thousands of years...longer than CCFC. It's sad that we still have this as a thing !!
The Greeks invented it...(just kidding..just having a dig)

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Cadiff city fan threatened with assault after challenging homophobic abuse

Maybe the point matt is making 🤔....is that in his opinion its all very well getting involved in these things but some people are just meatheads are you are just a step away from violence ?

I think a lot of people want to challenge idiots like this but fear getting into serious confrontation

I have confronted racists but luckily they have either backed down , others have backed me up or the stewards have got involved

It's not always plain sailing though

[Q]

Re: Cadiff city fan threatened with assault after challenging homophobic abuse

no I dont, and I never said I did

I was pointing out, it was great to call out the abuser, but when someone has a opinion that it maybe time to leave it, to be shut down like he was maybe not the right way to go about it

Ineffect the other person supported the abuser. So I think he had every right to tell him he didn’t want to discuss it with him. It’s simply unacceptable.

[Q]

Re: Cadiff city fan threatened with assault after challenging homophobic abuse

Maybe the point matt is making 🤔....is that in his opinion its all very well getting involved in these things but some people are just meatheads are you are just a step away from violence ?

I think a lot of people want to challenge idiots like this but fear getting into serious confrontation

I have confronted racists but luckily they have either backed down , others have backed me up or the stewards have got involved

It's not always plain sailing though

Agree with this. It’s a brave person to confront the meat head. People have died for similar things

[J R Hartley]

Re: Cadiff city fan threatened with assault after challenging homophobic abuse

Maybe the point matt is making 🤔....is that in his opinion its all very well getting involved in these things but some people are just meatheads are you are just a step away from violence ?

I think a lot of people want to challenge idiots like this but fear getting into serious confrontation

I have confronted racists but luckily they have either backed down , others have backed me up or the stewards have got involved

It's not always plain sailing though

I wondered when you would be along to make the thread about you

[Whisperer]

Re: Cadiff city fan threatened with assault after challenging homophobic abuse

Cennydd a 43 year old heterosexual

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Cadiff city fan threatened with assault after challenging homophobic abuse

I wondered when you would be along to make the thread about you

Homosexuals

Welcome To Merthyr

Good luck

[J R Hartley]

Re: Cadiff city fan threatened with assault after challenging homophobic abuse

Cennydd a 43 year old heterosexual

He’s an ethics consultant, there’s a hidden agenda behind this story and him going to the media NQAT