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  • #31
    Re: Callum Paterson

    Originally posted by City123 View Post
    If he was such a brilliant player how come only cash strapped Sheffield Wednesday were interested? If he was Championship standard in every single position surely there would be a huge clamour for his signature?

    As someone who's had to endure Paterson on the wing, no he's not a better winger than Hoilett, it was embarrassing. Paterson has also shown none of the required attributes to be a good centre back or central midfielder. He was effective up front as a novelty act, but he was soon figured out by other defences (in fact he was best utilised behind the striker)
    He played centre or right sided midfield for most of our Championship promotion season and got 10 goals in a side that got automatic promotion with 91 points ! He then got shunted up front because we didn't really have another goal scoring forward and did more than ok. He is a victim of his own enthusiasm and hard work. If Ralls and Bacuna put in half the amount of effort that he did, we wouldn't be languishing in lower mid table as we are currently

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    • #32
      Re: Callum Paterson

      Originally posted by dml1954 View Post
      He played centre or right sided midfield for most of our Championship promotion season and got 10 goals in a side that got automatic promotion with 91 points ! He then got shunted up front because we didn't really have another goal scoring forward and did more than ok. He is a victim of his own enthusiasm and hard work. If Ralls and Bacuna put in half the amount of effort that he did, we wouldn't be languishing in lower mid table as we are currently
      Spot on, some people's attitudes on here, you think he would have left behind a team of high quality, technical players. He gets into our first team at the moment easily. Silly to let him go

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      • #33
        Re: Callum Paterson

        Originally posted by dml1954 View Post
        He played centre or right sided midfield for most of our Championship promotion season and got 10 goals in a side that got automatic promotion with 91 points ! He then got shunted up front because we didn't really have another goal scoring forward and did more than ok. He is a victim of his own enthusiasm and hard work. If Ralls and Bacuna put in half the amount of effort that he did, we wouldn't be languishing in lower mid table as we are currently
        When he played on the right we were characterised by time wasting tactics and lumping the ball forward, its no surprise that our excellent early season performances became turgid hoofball affairs once he was introduced on the right.. He was a good nuisance, but he's showed nothing to suggest that he could play the role Ralls did or still does. I was a unclear on that was what I was trying to get at when saying he couldn't play in midfield, but thought it was implied as the person I was replying to specifically mentioned Ralls. By the time we'd sold him, Paterson was almost completely ineffective and having a strop if he was brought off. He's a character and he works hard, but he was almost certainly on good money as one of Warnock's favourites and exactly the kind of player we need to be moving away from if we want to watch football where the ball's on the floor for more than 10 minutes a game

        Lamenting Ralls whilst bigging up Paterson's contributions in the promotion season is a strange one considering Ralls was a key part of that side, starting 37 games and playing the full 90 in all but one, with a hamstring injury the only thing keeping him from playing in the remaining games (coincidentally that spell included that brief wobble against Sheffield United, Wolves & Villa). By contrast, Paterson started 23 games, playing over 1,000 fewer minutes than Ralls. Surely if Paterson was this great midfielder, he'd have played more than the apparently work shy Ralls?

        Also, Paterson's current side are one of the few below us in the table, which surely refutes your point that we wouldn't be languishing where we are if the almighty Callum Paterson were still in the side?

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        • #34
          Re: Callum Paterson

          Originally posted by dml1954 View Post
          He played centre or right sided midfield for most of our Championship promotion season
          He absolutely did not. Why make shit up?

          Unless you don't know the difference between centre midfield and playing behind the striker?

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          • #35
            Re: Callum Paterson

            We would be better off with him, having lost Glatzel.

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            • #36
              Re: Callum Paterson

              Originally posted by City123 View Post
              If he was such a brilliant player how come only cash strapped Sheffield Wednesday were interested? If he was Championship standard in every single position surely there would be a huge clamour for his signature?

              As someone who's had to endure Paterson on the wing, no he's not a better winger than Hoilett, it was embarrassing. Paterson has also shown none of the required attributes to be a good centre back or central midfielder. He was effective up front as a novelty act, but he was soon figured out by other defences (in fact he was best utilised behind the striker)
              Hoilett’s performance the other week was one of the worst I’ve seen in a city shirt

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              • #37
                Re: Callum Paterson

                Originally posted by Heisenberg View Post
                He absolutely did not. Why make shit up?

                Unless you don't know the difference between centre midfield and playing behind the striker?
                He had a few games out wide too

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                • #38
                  Re: Callum Paterson

                  Originally posted by Heisenberg View Post
                  He absolutely did not. Why make shit up?

                  Unless you don't know the difference between centre midfield and playing behind the striker?
                  Spot on.

                  I'm sure he played CM in one of the cups and was awful, totally lost.
                  He played a few games wide, never particularly well.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Callum Paterson

                    Originally posted by WJ99mobile View Post
                    He had a few games out wide too
                    Yep. He played a handful of games out wide. How is that "most of our championship promotion season" though - which is what dml said?

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                    • #40
                      Re: Callum Paterson

                      Originally posted by 2b2bdoo View Post
                      Spot on.

                      I'm sure he played CM in one of the cups and was awful, totally lost.
                      He played a few games wide, never particularly well.
                      Exactly. He played a few games at right-wing back too but I doubt there would be any posters claiming Bennett played left midfield for us that season.

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                      • #41
                        Re: Callum Paterson

                        Originally posted by LeningradCowboy View Post
                        I'm not sure why you moan constantly about us playing hoofball, but complain when we sell a player who can only play that way.
                        So, he “can only play that way” - how do you know that? Have you seen him playing in a team that doesn’t play long ball? If I was to use such daft reasoning, I’d be saying that we played better football towards the end of last season when Paterson was in our squad than we’ve played this season after he left - therefore, Paterson is a player that helps a team play more football.

                        Paterson might be better suited to playing a certain way, but, no more so than too many players in our current squad - we’ve got no balance when it comes to positions through the centre of the pitch that can dictate how we play, so we end up playing in the way we do. However all the best sides need a share of grafters to go with their craft and Paterson was among the best of our grafters in 17/18 - it wasn’t his fault either that he got shoved up front in the following season when he was, arguably, more effective than Zohore and Niasse.

                        I don’t like the way we play the game, but why should that mean that I cannot appreciate someone who might not have been that easy on the eye? Paterson was an effective player for us for most of his time with us and it seems he’s one of Sheffield Wednesday’s most effective players as well.

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                        • #42
                          Re: Callum Paterson

                          Originally posted by City123 View Post
                          When he played on the right we were characterised by time wasting tactics and lumping the ball forward, its no surprise that our excellent early season performances became turgid hoofball affairs once he was introduced on the right.. He was a good nuisance, but he's showed nothing to suggest that he could play the role Ralls did or still does. I was a unclear on that was what I was trying to get at when saying he couldn't play in midfield, but thought it was implied as the person I was replying to specifically mentioned Ralls. By the time we'd sold him, Paterson was almost completely ineffective and having a strop if he was brought off. He's a character and he works hard, but he was almost certainly on good money as one of Warnock's favourites and exactly the kind of player we need to be moving away from if we want to watch football where the ball's on the floor for more than 10 minutes a game

                          Lamenting Ralls whilst bigging up Paterson's contributions in the promotion season is a strange one considering Ralls was a key part of that side, starting 37 games and playing the full 90 in all but one, with a hamstring injury the only thing keeping him from playing in the remaining games (coincidentally that spell included that brief wobble against Sheffield United, Wolves & Villa). By contrast, Paterson started 23 games, playing over 1,000 fewer minutes than Ralls. Surely if Paterson was this great midfielder, he'd have played more than the apparently work shy Ralls?

                          Also, Paterson's current side are one of the few below us in the table, which surely refutes your point that we wouldn't be languishing where we are if the almighty Callum Paterson were still in the side?
                          David Marshall was in a relegated Norwich side when we bought him

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                          • #43
                            Re: Callum Paterson

                            Originally posted by BlueArmy 86 View Post
                            We would be better off with him, having lost Glatzel.
                            Hindsight is wonderful. Paterson wasnt happy being on the bench and he certainly isnt better Moore.

                            So hes had a good month. Big deal. I remember we used to get these threads after we let Tom Adeymi go out on loan. How we had made a mistake.etc. The guy hasnt had a club for 2 years.

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                            • #44
                              Re: Callum Paterson

                              Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                              So, he “can only play that way” - how do you know that? Have you seen him playing in a team that doesn’t play long ball? If I was to use such daft reasoning, I’d be saying that we played better football towards the end of last season when Paterson was in our squad than we’ve played this season after he left - therefore, Paterson is a player that helps a team play more football.

                              Paterson might be better suited to playing a certain way, but, no more so than too many players in our current squad - we’ve got no balance when it comes to positions through the centre of the pitch that can dictate how we play, so we end up playing in the way we do. However all the best sides need a share of grafters to go with their craft and Paterson was among the best of our grafters in 17/18 - it wasn’t his fault either that he got shoved up front in the following season when he was, arguably, more effective than Zohore and Niasse.

                              I don’t like the way we play the game, but why should that mean that I cannot appreciate someone who might not have been that easy on the eye? Paterson was an effective player for us for most of his time with us and it seems he’s one of Sheffield Wednesday’s most effective players as well.
                              Paterson was one of the reasons we couldnt change our style of play. His second touch was usually a tackle. Hes just a battering ram.

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