Seven months and six months

[The Lone Gunman]

That's how long it's been since Max Watters and Mark Harris scored a Championship goal.

Watters' one and only goal at this level came during the 3-2 defeat at Bristol City on 22/01/2022.

Harris last scored in the 2-0 victory Coventry at the CCS 15/02/2022.

That was the game in which Watters was hauled off by his manager on 37 minutes. He's started a total of eleven Championship games for City and has been brought off early in every one of them. The times he's been subbed are: 55 mins, 57 mins, 56 mins, 37 mins, 66 mins, 63 mins, 60 mins, 52 mins, 45 mins, 64 mins and 57 mins.

Some seem to believe Watters will eventually come good and is worth persevering with, but I just cannot see it. To me, he consistently looks like a League One player at best. As for Harris, he can look effective when playing out wide and has been a useful substitute on occasions, but he doesn't look good enough for a regular starting spot at this level.

Is Isaak Davies going to be the answer when he's fit? Maybe, but that seems like a big ask to me.

[Trigger]

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The one on one miss didn't even annoy me as much as him and indeed the rest of the team walking around as o'dowda got to the ball and crossed to no one.

Midfielders too just don't seem to make runs into there.

It's clear we need strengthening and are probably waiting on clubs to allow loans out.

Fingers crossed they are half decent.

[2b2bdoo]

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I think Watters has improved very very slightly in that he presses and runs the channels more but then that should be expected anyway. For me Harris is just lacking, he works hard and is neat and tidy but just isn’t a striker for me.

Tbh I thought Morison would have moved both on and brought in 3 strikers. He has brought in Etete but we are still two good strikers short and I still expect them to come in.

[Canton Kev]

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The one on one miss didn't even annoy me as much as him and indeed the rest of the team walking around as o'dowda got to the ball and crossed to no one.

Midfielders too just don't seem to make runs into there.

It's clear we need strengthening and are probably waiting on clubs to allow loans out.

Fingers crossed they are half decent.

I think none of them thought O’dowda would keep it in. To be fair I was surprised he did.

[TWGL1]

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I think none of them thought O’dowda would keep it in. To be fair I was surprised he did.

I think this season was always going to be transitional , and I think it’s best to judge this team after 12 games , that being said, at least we are creating chances on another day it would have been a draw.

I though we should have had a penalty and Harris should have buried his chance.

[Trigger]

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I think none of them thought O’dowda would keep it in. To be fair I was surprised he did.

I though he might have (admittedly from the tv angle). He might not have, but surely if you see your team mate sprint to it you at least move.

That's the sort of easy potential tap ins a striker should be getting.

Just seemed poor, not just watters. Very few times do the midfielders get beyond him.

[Bobby Dandruff]

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I though he might have (admittedly from the tv angle). He might not have, but surely if you see your team mate sprint to it you at least move.

That's the sort of easy potential tap ins a striker should be getting.

Just seemed poor, not just watters. Very few times do the midfielders get beyond him.

It really was poor. It is the basics for a professional footballer.

[Bobby Dandruff]

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That's how long it's been since Max Watters and Mark Harris scored a Championship goal.

Watters' one and only goal at this level came during the 3-2 defeat at Bristol City on 22/01/2022.

Harris last scored in the 2-0 victory Coventry at the CCS 15/02/2022.

That was the game in which Watters was hauled off by his manager on 37 minutes. He's started a total of eleven Championship games for City and has been brought off early in every one of them. The times he's been subbed are: 55 mins, 57 mins, 56 mins, 37 mins, 66 mins, 63 mins, 60 mins, 52 mins, 45 mins, 64 mins and 57 mins.

Some seem to believe Watters will eventually come good and is worth persevering with, but I just cannot see it. To me, he consistently looks like a League One player at best. As for Harris, he can look effective when playing out wide and has been a useful substitute on occasions, but he doesn't look good enough for a regular starting spot at this level.

Is Isaak Davies going to be the answer when he's fit? Maybe, but that seems like a big ask to me.

Quite.

I’m just fed up of Watters being bullied by opposing defenders, being caught on the wrong side of them, seemingly always being on his heels and losing possession really cheaply. It is so frustrating to watch.

If he scored the occasional goal, then maybe I’d be more accepting of the above but he almost never looks remotely threatening on the floor or in the air.

[Bluebirdman Of Alcathays]

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I think I hoped rather than believed he would come good cos we spent £1M on him (which, thinking about it, probably isn't all that much even on a gamble in this day and age) and I'm a soft git. He turned up 5 days before Neil Harris was sacked and knowing he was on his way out should the board have sanctioned the signing or did someone who wasn't the manager sign Watters? All seems a bit odd.

(When I say "knowing he was on his way out" I mean Dalman must have overheard someone mention it while playing backgammon in his gentleman's club).

[LA Bluebird]

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Watters has been failing to get in position for crosses all season, there was a brilliant cross from Collins in the Birmingham game that was begging for him to get in front of his man and turn in that stands out. The one today was just obvious how bad it was.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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That's how long it's been since Max Watters and Mark Harris scored a Championship goal.

Watters' one and only goal at this level came during the 3-2 defeat at Bristol City on 22/01/2022.

Harris last scored in the 2-0 victory Coventry at the CCS 15/02/2022.

That was the game in which Watters was hauled off by his manager on 37 minutes. He's started a total of eleven Championship games for City and has been brought off early in every one of them. The times he's been subbed are: 55 mins, 57 mins, 56 mins, 37 mins, 66 mins, 63 mins, 60 mins, 52 mins, 45 mins, 64 mins and 57 mins.

Some seem to believe Watters will eventually come good and is worth persevering with, but I just cannot see it. To me, he consistently looks like a League One player at best. As for Harris, he can look effective when playing out wide and has been a useful substitute on occasions, but he doesn't look good enough for a regular starting spot at this level.

Is Isaak Davies going to be the answer when he's fit? Maybe, but that seems like a big ask to me.

Jesus what a stat

[EastbourneBlue]

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That's how long it's been since Max Watters and Mark Harris scored a Championship goal.

Watters' one and only goal at this level came during the 3-2 defeat at Bristol City on 22/01/2022.

Harris last scored in the 2-0 victory Coventry at the CCS 15/02/2022.

That was the game in which Watters was hauled off by his manager on 37 minutes. He's started a total of eleven Championship games for City and has been brought off early in every one of them. The times he's been subbed are: 55 mins, 57 mins, 56 mins, 37 mins, 66 mins, 63 mins, 60 mins, 52 mins, 45 mins, 64 mins and 57 mins.

Some seem to believe Watters will eventually come good and is worth persevering with, but I just cannot see it. To me, he consistently looks like a League One player at best. As for Harris, he can look effective when playing out wide and has been a useful substitute on occasions, but he doesn't look good enough for a regular starting spot at this level.

Is Isaak Davies going to be the answer when he's fit? Maybe, but that seems like a big ask to me.

Max Watters is 23. In my opinion he’s done enough to be given a little longer on the books, whether that’s on loan somewhere else or as a sub.

[The Lone Gunman]

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Max Watters is 23.

Tommy Conway, who scored his fourth goal of the season for Bristol City today and looked lively all afternoon, is just 20.

Erling Haaland has just turned 22.

I know, I know, it’s ridiculous in all respects to mention Haaland and Watters in the same post, but 23 really isn’t that young for a footballer. Sure, he’s inexperienced to a degree, but I haven’t seen anything yet from Watters that suggests he’s ever going to be good enough at this level. Not a thing.

The biggest surprise for me so far this season is that Morison has been persisting with him. A couple of months ago I was certain Watters would have been either sent out on loan or offloaded altogether by now. I’m amazed the manager is using him as a lone striker after what we saw from both of them last season.

[UNDERHILL1927]

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Tommy Conway, who scored his fourth goal of the season for Bristol City today and looked lively all afternoon, is just 20.

Erling Haaland has just turned 22.

I know, I know, it’s ridiculous in all respects to mention Haaland and Watters in the same post, but 23 really isn’t that young for a footballer. Sure, he’s inexperienced to a degree, but I haven’t seen anything yet from Watters that suggests he’s ever going to be good enough at this level. Not a thing.

The biggest surprise for me so far this season is that Morison has been persisting with him. A couple of months ago I was certain Watters would have been either sent out on loan or offloaded altogether by now. I’m amazed the manager is using him as a lone striker after what we saw from both of them last season.

I too was shocked he kept and is persisting with Watters. Collins is a better player than him for me.

[City123]

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Max "Good movement" Watters' movement isn't even that good, just smacks of people trying to find something good about him