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  • #16
    Re: Quiet quitting

    Originally posted by superfeathers View Post
    Sore subject? 😂

    And yet the examples in the.story.the OP.posted.work.in the private sector…

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    • #17
      Re: Quiet quitting

      Originally posted by ToTaL ITK View Post
      Well according to your next Prime minister Liz Truss you are a lazy idle lot that want something for nothing. She prefers the "Chinese way" (let's see who gets that) of work ethics. I wish you all the best with Lizzy :hehe:
      I think thats neant for people who don't work?

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      • #18
        Re: Quiet quitting

        Originally posted by sneggyblubird View Post
        It's just the pendulum swinging the other way. I used to work for a company who's MD put great store in staff willing to go the extra mile for nothing. During a course I was attending at head office I was struck by the mayhem of employees fighting to get out of the car park 2 mins after the MD had done his half hour extra as an example to the minions. The standard management most used phrase in the 80/90s was "if you don't like it **** off cause there's 3 people waiting to do your job on my terms. Now with employers struggling to fill vacancies its no surprise to me to hear this sort of behaviour coming back into the workplace. Something else to blame Brexit on.:hehe:
        There has been a swing, the workers are getting back dome power, and yes for staff it's an advantage of Brexit.

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        • #19
          Re: Quiet quitting

          I don't necessarily see why doing only what you're paid to do is such a revolutionary concept (it just seems like common sense).

          But I'd also argue that if someone is doing the bare minimum, it's not a question of laziness but motivation. Is the employee engaged in what they're doing? Are they being poorly managed?

          It's also a question of values. Some companies/industries are built on the "grindset", the idea that you have to work every hour going to prove yourself. Some people are defined by their job and WANT to be on the clock 24/7.

          I did it when I was younger. Work hard, play hard and all that. But now that I have a family, work is no more than a source of income to allow me to do the things I really enjoy. And I think that's a far healthier approach to life. Don't get me wrong, I give 100% during working hours, I never miss deadlines, and my work is to a high standard. But every evening my notifications are turned off and if something comes my way, tough shit - it can wait until the morning.

          You can call that quiet quitting if you want. But it just seems like a healthy work/life balance to me.

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          • #20
            Re: Quiet quitting

            But this doing extra can work both ways.

            When I was working for Balfours in 2008/9 I had a young girl working for me on 18K a year. The job she originally got expanded and started to mean a lot more work which she did without a murmur.

            Then in Dec 2008 the company said that general pay rises were not going to happen because of the financial situation except in exceptional cases. I wrote such a case without her request or knowledge and it was supported by my director. In Jan 2009 her salary went up to 23.5K. It was a huge hike for a girl who was still young enough to be on the lower rate of minimum wage.
            She was a wonderful girl and thoroughly deserved it but the real point is the Company recognised it and rewarded her.

            We discovered later that in that year she has the largest percentage pay rise in the whole group.

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            • #21
              Re: Quiet quitting

              Originally posted by FormerlyJohnnyBreadhead View Post
              I don't necessarily see why doing only what you're paid to do is such a revolutionary concept (it just seems like common sense).

              But I'd also argue that if someone is doing the bare minimum, it's not a question of laziness but motivation. Is the employee engaged in what they're doing? Are they being poorly managed?

              It's also a question of values. Some companies/industries are built on the "grindset", the idea that you have to work every hour going to prove yourself. Some people are defined by their job and WANT to be on the clock 24/7.

              I did it when I was younger. Work hard, play hard and all that. But now that I have a family, work is no more than a source of income to allow me to do the things I really enjoy. And I think that's a far healthier approach to life. Don't get me wrong, I give 100% during working hours, I never miss deadlines, and my work is to a high standard. But every evening my notifications are turned off and if something comes my way, tough shit - it can wait until the morning.

              You can call that quiet quitting if you want. But it just seems like a healthy work/life balance to me.
              Yeah i fell into that trap when i was younger, drilled into you through school and all the boomers with their boot straps!

              All this staff shortage and quite quitting, or "nobody wants to work anymore" is mainly shitty jobs on bare minimum pay. Bare minimum pay for bare minimum effort, sounds right.

              I'm happy people are starting to realise their capitalistic value is their time and are pushing back, too many bullshit jobs and companies anyway. Thin the heard, 25/30 hours a week for everyone with universal basic income.

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              • #22
                Re: Quiet quitting

                Originally posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
                There has been a swing, the workers are getting back dome power, and yes for staff it's an advantage of Brexit.
                Then how come it's happening here too? It's 100% due to Covid. Which resulted in the realization by ordinary working people that they are vital to the economy and therefore deserve to be rewarded for it.

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                • #23
                  Re: Quiet quitting

                  Originally posted by NYCBlue View Post
                  Then how come it's happening here too? It's 100% due to Covid. Which resulted in the realization by ordinary working people that they are vital to the economy and therefore deserve to be rewarded for it.
                  I think the work smarter not harder mantra has been around for years

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