Clive Tyldesley

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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I watch the old editions of the Big Match on BT most mornings now and again and one of the things I pick up is that Brian Moore was not as good as I used to think he was - he used to make a lot of mistakes.

Agree with those who say Barry Davies is/was the best football commentator.

Glad I'm not the only one who has noticed this with Moore. He also seemed to rely on stock phrases.

Agreed x2 about Barry Davies. He knew how to let a game breathe and had the art mastered of knowing when to keep quiet. Nowadays commentators say too much. Fletcher is about the worst on BT sport as he seems to think he's on radio all too often.

[Elwood Blues]

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I watch the old editions of the Big Match on BT most mornings now and again and one of the things I pick up is that Brian Moore was not as good as I used to think he was - he used to make a lot of mistakes.

Agree with those who say Barry Davies is/was the best football commentator.

I'm sure he did make mistakes. I would guess many commentaries are full of them,live stuff always is.

They are very much of their time not designed for the multiple reruns of the modern era0

Martin Brundle for example made a mess at one point in the F1 on Sunday (mixed up who was to blame in the clash of the two Ferraris).

I still preferred Moore to Davies who struck me as a bit pretentious at times. I actually preferred his non football commentaries which were often excellent

[splott parker]

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Where did you see this?

Can't find anything on a quick look on the net.

Disagree anyway. Heard him many times live didn't find him wanting at all.

Read about it way before the internet, not sure where, a tv paper or football magazine perhaps.

[Bobby Dandruff]

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Where did you see this?

Can't find anything on a quick look on the net.

Disagree anyway. Heard him many times live didn't find him wanting at all.

Yeah, this sounds a bit odd.

Did he really do that? 🤷*♂️

[Bobby Dandruff]

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I watch the old editions of the Big Match on BT most mornings now and again and one of the things I pick up is that Brian Moore was not as good as I used to think he was - he used to make a lot of mistakes.

Agree with those who say Barry Davies is/was the best football commentator.

I agree with this.

However, Huw Johns and lots of the regional commentators from the 1970s really DO stand the test of time for some reason. (not Idwal Roblin obvs. )

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Yeah, this sounds a bit odd.

Did he really do that? ��*♂️

Sounds pretty plausible to me tbh

[Elwood Blues]

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Read about it way before the internet, not sure where, a tv paper or football magazine perhaps.

TV papers and football magazines didn't( and don,'t) always tell the truth

[the other bob wilson]

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I agree with this.

However, Huw Johns and lots of the regional commentators from the 1970s really DO stand the test of time for some reason. (not Idwal Roblin obvs. )

Funny thing is that Huw John's comes over to me now as the opposite of Brian Moore - someone I didn't rate in the 70s who sounds good now.

[Bobby Dandruff]

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Funny thing is that Huw John's comes over to me now as the opposite of Brian Moore - someone I didn't rate in the 70s who sounds good now.

Lol. Nostalgia in reverse.

Huw Johns has such a great voice and turn of phrase. A bit like Stuart Hall but without the questionable background.

[CCFCC3PO]

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Funny thing is that Huw John's comes over to me now as the opposite of Brian Moore - someone I didn't rate in the 70s who sounds good now.

I didn't like Huw Johns when I was a kid - always seemed old and stuffy - but as I have become old and stuffy I think he was really good. Better than Wolstenholme, but he had the famous phrase that encapsulated commentary (and blighted it in some ways as many others seek that famous line - back to "balmy night in Barcelona").

Motson, I disliked intensely, especially in that 2002 World Cup "Breakfast with Beckham".

[splott parker]

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Sounds pretty plausible to me tbh

Of course it’s plausible, as if someone would commentate on a live Saturday afternoon game for the whole 90 odd minutes live (why would they need to?) then that commentary would be used 24 hours later for half hour of highlights, the continuity would be all over the place. The skill of the commentator would be commentating ‘as live’ in the abbreviated game and not going down the smug, football genius road.

[splott parker]

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TV papers and football magazines didn't( and don,'t) always tell the truth

You serious???? My missus ruins Coronation Street for me telling me the plot lines before they happen

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Of course it’s plausible, as if someone would commentate on a live Saturday afternoon game for the whole 90 odd minutes live (why would they need to?) then that commentary would be used 24 hours later for half hour of highlights, the continuity would be all over the place. The skill of the commentator would be commentating ‘as live’ in the abbreviated game and not going down the smug, football genius road.

Yeah I kind of assumed they were doing something like you said

[Elwood Blues]

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Of course it’s plausible, as if someone would commentate on a live Saturday afternoon game for the whole 90 odd minutes live (why would they need to?) then that commentary would be used 24 hours later for half hour of highlights, the continuity would be all over the place. The skill of the commentator would be commentating ‘as live’ in the abbreviated game and not going down the smug, football genius road.

What did Match of the Day do then?

Are you saying that Brian Moore thought of himself as a smug football genius?

[splott parker]

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What did Match of the Day do then?

Are you saying that Brian Moore thought of himself as a smug football genius?

Match of the Day had plenty of time for after match commentating, 5 hours after the final whistles. It’s these people’s jobs, they’d be experienced enough to sort their abridged commentary out for the ten o’clock transmission, easier to do that than clip, edit and sort out continuity of a complete 90 minute commentary I’d imagine. And, yes, I did think Moore came across as a smug bugger, wasn’t keen on him at all.