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  • #31
    Re: Bale

    Bale doesn't do the things that he did 4 years ago, like run, press from the front etc, he doesn't even try and beat his man anymore, just gives himself half a yard and plays the cross around the fullback. He's a final third player now, and i think that we have to accommodate that as he still has huge quality in his delivery, short passing and movement. He only plays when he is in those positions, that's maybe why he may be able to play for 70 minutes plus during the world cup.

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    • #32
      Re: Bale

      Originally posted by BLUETIT View Post
      For me, it’s more important getting Ramsey on the pitch
      For me crucial we get both. Opposition will still fret over bale and Rambo good enough still to take advantage. And they link up so well. Add in Brennan and I’m excited.

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      • #33
        Re: Bale

        Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
        Bale doesn't do the things that he did 4 years ago, like run, press from the front etc, he doesn't even try and beat his man anymore, just gives himself half a yard and plays the cross around the fullback. He's a final third player now, and i think that we have to accommodate that as he still has huge quality in his delivery, short passing and movement. He only plays when he is in those positions, that's maybe why he may be able to play for 70 minutes plus during the world cup.
        So he's a goal hanger then

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        • #34
          Re: Bale

          Originally posted by PhyllisStant View Post
          Totally agree, and he should be ditching them now and integrating the youngsters into the squad. Is Johnny Williams going to offer more than Savage or Gunter more than Fin Stevens or Jack Ashworth?
          Imagine Chem Campbell up front on the left & Brennan Johnson on the right, with Savage & Luke Harris bursting through from midfield, and Neco & Owen Beck playing as the wing-backs. Of course Brooks, Wilson, & James are also still young, along with many others I haven't mentioned.

          *Chem Campbell may need a bit of work, as he could be poached by England.

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          • #35
            Re: Bale

            Neco...he lacks any class. An abundance of effort will only take you so far.

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            • #36
              Re: Bale

              Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
              So he's a goal hanger then
              Ronaldo has been a 'Goal Hanger' for the best part of 6 years!

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              • #37
                Re: Bale

                Originally posted by kendoddsdadsdogsdead View Post
                Neco...he lacks any class. An abundance of effort will only take you so far.
                Maybe play him on the right then, where he has been doing really well for Forest. The lad is right footed.

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                • #38
                  Re: Bale

                  Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
                  Ronaldo has been a 'Goal Hanger' for the best part of 6 years!
                  I'm not knocking it, I was a bit of a goal hanger myself in my later years.

                  When your legs go it happens pretty quickly, but I think Ronny has generally looked after himself a lot better than Gareth has.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Bale

                    Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
                    Bale doesn't do the things that he did 4 years ago, like run, press from the front etc, he doesn't even try and beat his man anymore, just gives himself half a yard and plays the cross around the fullback. He's a final third player now, and i think that we have to accommodate that as he still has huge quality in his delivery, short passing and movement. He only plays when he is in those positions, that's maybe why he may be able to play for 70 minutes plus during the world cup.
                    Agreed, but he's still a ****ing magician. When the moments come, there is no one, and never has been anyone that can do what he does for this team. He may not be able to kick the ball in to space, run out of touch and catch up with it. But when you need someone to make a difference. When it matters. Wearing a Welsh shirt. Accept no substitute. Pun just caught up with me and now can be assumed intended.

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                    • #40
                      Re: Bale

                      Bale has played 5 minutes in 5 weeks. Not ideal. That said..were this a normal world cup, I guess the vast majority of players would have finished their domestic season a good month early anyway.

                      It is strange though. So few starts, sitting on the bench and not coming on at all etc. Doesn't speak volumes of his form.

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                      • #41
                        Re: Bale

                        Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                        Bale has played 5 minutes in 5 weeks. Not ideal. That said..were this a normal world cup, I guess the vast majority of players would have finished their domestic season a good month early anyway.

                        It is strange though. So few starts, sitting on the bench and not coming on at all etc. Doesn't speak volumes of his form.

                        https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...hance-25394004
                        5 mins in 5 weeks isnt ideal, but he will still be training and keeping fit, if he can give his all for 60 - 70 mins, he is a game winner

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                        • #42
                          Re: Bale

                          Originally posted by BLUETIT View Post
                          For me, it’s more important getting Ramsey on the pitch
                          Ben Davies has got to be one of the most important players considering he is the only player in the squad playing elite (topish of prem and UCL) club football.

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                          • #43
                            Re: Bale

                            Originally posted by blue matt View Post
                            5 mins in 5 weeks isnt ideal, but he will still be training and keeping fit, if he can give his all for 60 - 70 mins, he is a game winner
                            Even just for free kicks…..

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                            • #44
                              Re: Bale

                              Originally posted by goats View Post
                              Even just for free kicks…..
                              :thumbup: indeed

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                              • #45
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                                Not really worked out has it.

                                Given his lack of match fitness it wouldn't have here either mind.

                                Has it ever been said what the problem is? He seems fit enough to play when we need to but then can never get a run at club level. He's 33 and it's been like this for years now.

                                On the pitch he is still capable, although you can noticably see he has slowed.

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