Wales considering renaming as Cymru

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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru

I accept that you are concerned that people in Wales might call the country by its own proper name in its own language.

How long have you been speaking Welsh as a living language ?

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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There is no proper name. If you go down that route, you have to start thinking in terms of a proper accent, being more *insert national identity* than the next person. It's already happening in this thread. You're doing it. I'm not having a go at you and I don't think it's malicious and I don't want to fall out with anyone....but this is where this stuff always goes and I'm sick of it tbh. F*ck anthems, flags and the like. It's not for me.

No I'm not. Wales official name in our own language is Cymru. Sorry you hate that.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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How long have you been speaking Welsh as a living language ?

So Wales shouldn't be called Cymru?

[Citizen's Nephew]

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No I'm not. Wales official name in our own language is Cymru. Sorry you hate that.

I don't hate it Eric. You're missing the point but I'll leave it there.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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I don't hate it Eric. You're missing the point but I'll leave it there.

If you don't hate it, I don't see the problem.

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Its part of the (imho) aggressive push of the language which is absolutely tied to Welsh nationalism.

Yes Cymru are promoted in the welsh press and media as being a growing movement regarding Welsh independence

I think it's a con trick

If Wales was hurtling towards independence why do Plaid Cymru have less backing than the dreaded tories and why are marches of a few thousand people in Cardiff reported as significant ?

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru

There is no proper name. If you go down that route, you have to start thinking in terms of a proper accent, being more *insert national identity* than the next person. It's already happening in this thread. You're doing it. I'm not having a go at you and I don't think it's malicious and I don't want to fall out with anyone....but this is where this stuff always goes and I'm sick of it tbh. F*ck anthems, flags and the like. It's not for me.

It's only a proposition regarding changing the nomenclature of the country to something more germane than the word 'foreigner', old fruit.

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If you don't hate it, I don't see the problem.

You can object to something without hating it

I object to motor racing , darts and snooker on the TV and it bores me but I don't hate it

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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Yes Cymru are promoted in the welsh press and media as being a growing movement regarding Welsh independence

I think it's a con trick

If Wales was hurtling towards independence why do Plaid Cymru have less backing than the dreaded tories and why are marches of a few thousand people in Cardiff reported as significant ?

In fairness, you see South Wales as an extended part of the SW of England and have said so several times.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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So Wales shouldn't be called Cymru?

The question I have asked you is how long have you been speaking Welsh?

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In fairness, you see South Wales as an extended part of the SW of England and have said so several times.

Well the history of South East Wales since industrialisation is closer to Bristol and Gloucester than it is the rolling hills of dyfed

Or are you saying that's incorrect ?

Bristol , Somerset etc is a mixture of urban , semi urban and rural communities and is densely populated and cosmopolitan

Just like South East Wales

And very much unlike the rest of Wales

Non ?

[Citizen's Nephew]

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It's only a proposition regarding changing the nomenclature of the country to something more germane than the word 'foreigner', old fruit.

I think that's a quaint but naive view tbh and I respect your interest in language/s. I have other concerns which I've outlined.

Language changes. You know this. They're all made-up words and looking backwards to a 'Golden Age' is where a lot of nationalistic problems start happening and that stuff gets exploited.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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I think that's a quaint but naive view tbh and I respect your interest in language/s. I have other concerns which I've outlined.

Language changes. You know this. They're all made-up words and looking backwards to a 'Golden Age' is where a lot of nationalistic problems start happening and that stuff gets exploited.

Quaint and naive. That's me :thumbup:

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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The question I have asked you is how long have you been speaking Welsh?

Ask away. It's utterly irrelevant.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru

Well the history of South East Wales since industrialisation is closer to Bristol and Gloucester than it is the rolling hills of dyfed

Or are you saying that's incorrect ?

Bristol , Somerset etc is a mixture of urban , semi urban and rural communities and is densely populated and cosmopolitan

Just like South East Wales

And very much unlike the rest of Wales

Non ?

Up to you, but it explains why you see yourself as barely Welsh.