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  • #31
    Re: Relegation

    Originally posted by Hilts View Post
    We more or less had a 1 man midfield. Ralls and lets face it hes all energy and not likely to be playing many defence splitting passes.

    Get King back.
    King has been in and out of a Crewe side that are not turning up trees to expect him to come back in to a championship midfield and start dictating matters is wishful thinking.

    For his own development a season at League Two is of more benefit than him playing the odd game at championship level.

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    • #32
      Re: Relegation

      Flint can't get in a stoke team one point above us so I doubt he was the solution

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      • #33
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        Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
        I don't think you quite understand

        Players like flint would be perfect for the season long battle we are face

        But we got rid of him

        And many fans were happy as cats lying in the sun 🌞

        Well now they are seeing the result
        Players like Flint were the reason we finished 18th and spent the season fending off crap sides like Barnsley and Peterborough.

        Let me get this straight so there's no misunderstanding here - you'd advocate bringing back talentless players who took us into a relegation battle just because they're up for that battle?

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        • #34
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          Originally posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
          Players like Flint were the reason we finished 18th and spent the season fending off crap sides like Barnsley and Peterborough.

          Let me get this straight so there's no misunderstanding here - you'd advocate bringing back talentless players who took us into a relegation battle just because they're up for that battle?
          Listen your dream of fancy football is going sour

          There we go

          Flint and players like him .....who were far from talentless .....were exactly the kind of players CCFC needed

          If you want to watch the pretty football you are used to watching on SKY then that's fair enough but we don't have that style or ethos at this club and making drastic changes to placate the likes of you is exactly why we are where we are

          If we had 4 or 5 workhorses through the spine of the team we wouldn't be struggling big time like we are

          When you have people barking orders on the pitch then players like ojo and sawyers don't have anywhere to hide

          If you were manager the players would be getting counselling every time they fell over

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          • #35
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            Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
            Listen your dream of fancy football is going sour

            There we go

            Flint and players like him .....who were far from talentless .....were exactly the kind of players CCFC needed

            If you want to watch the pretty football you are used to watching on SKY then that's fair enough but we don't have that style or ethos at this club and making drastic changes to placate the likes of you is exactly why we are where we are

            If we had 4 or 5 workhorses through the spine of the team we wouldn't be struggling big time like we are

            When you have people barking orders on the pitch then players like ojo and sawyers don't have anywhere to hide

            If you were manager the players would be getting counselling every time they fell over
            Blah blah blah. Change the record. Any club at Championship level that does well, gets promoted and stays promoted for more than one season does so by playing football. Neat passing, pace, movement off the ball, playing to and knowing a system etc. Not by shouting at each other. You're living in the past.

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            • #36
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              Originally posted by NYCBlue View Post
              Blah blah blah. Change the record. Any club at Championship level that does well, gets promoted and stays promoted for more than one season does so by playing football. Neat passing, pace, movement off the ball, playing to and knowing a system etc. Not by shouting at each other. You're living in the past.
              And you are living in America 🇺🇸

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              • #37
                Re: Relegation

                Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                Listen your dream of fancy football is going sour

                There we go

                Flint and players like him .....who were far from talentless .....were exactly the kind of players CCFC needed

                If you want to watch the pretty football you are used to watching on SKY then that's fair enough but we don't have that style or ethos at this club and making drastic changes to placate the likes of you is exactly why we are where we are

                If we had 4 or 5 workhorses through the spine of the team we wouldn't be struggling big time like we are

                When you have people barking orders on the pitch then players like ojo and sawyers don't have anywhere to hide

                If you were manager the players would be getting counselling every time they fell over
                How did we do last season?

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                • #38
                  Re: Relegation

                  Originally posted by City123 View Post
                  How did we do last season?
                  We stayed up quite comfortably

                  We won't be doing that this year unless we get some spine and muscle in the team

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                  • #39
                    Re: Relegation

                    Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                    We stayed up quite comfortably

                    We won't be doing that this year unless we get some spine and muscle in the team
                    What happened in the first half of that season that put us into danger and who was responsible? What style of football did we play in the first half of the season?

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                    • #40
                      Re: Relegation

                      Originally posted by City123 View Post
                      What happened in the first half of that season that put us into danger and who was responsible? What style of football did we play in the first half of the season?
                      So you think that the second half of the season is what saved us ? I would argue the final third contributed to taking us to safety but the first half was saved by the second half which saved us ?

                      I can't agree with that

                      If we lose against Sheffield United that will be 6 defeats in 8 matches

                      That's what will get us relegated

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                      • #41
                        Re: Relegation

                        Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                        Listen your dream of fancy football is going sour

                        There we go

                        Flint and players like him .....who were far from talentless .....were exactly the kind of players CCFC needed

                        If you want to watch the pretty football you are used to watching on SKY then that's fair enough but we don't have that style or ethos at this club and making drastic changes to placate the likes of you is exactly why we are where we are

                        If we had 4 or 5 workhorses through the spine of the team we wouldn't be struggling big time like we are

                        When you have people barking orders on the pitch then players like ojo and sawyers don't have anywhere to hide

                        If you were manager the players would be getting counselling every time they fell over
                        Let me get this straight so there's no misunderstanding here - you'd advocate bringing back talentless players who took us into a relegation battle just because they're up for that battle?

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                        • #42
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                          Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                          So you think that the second half of the season is what saved us ? I would argue the final third contributed to taking us to safety but the first half was saved by the second half which saved us ?

                          I can't agree with that

                          If we lose against Sheffield United that will be 6 defeats in 8 matches

                          That's what will get us relegated
                          Analogy for you sludge, that i think you will understand. If i went to a lake and threw a couple of sticks of dynamite in the water and up popped loads of dead fish, would that be fishing? some people may say that it is, after all, objective achieved, fish caught, nets full, but it isn't sustainable, it can't be developed, blowing things up simply wont do in the long term, although the initial yield is impressive. That's the type of football you seem to be advocating. Long ball, anti football, winning by spoiling. It's short term, and the fall out is huge when other teams find you out. We have to develop into something sustainable.

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                          • #43
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                            Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                            If we lose against Sheffield United that will be 6 defeats in 8 matches

                            That's what will get us relegated
                            Yet McCarthy's long ball, physical approach lost us 8 matches in a row. That didn't end up getting us relegated.

                            You're having a leathering here, sonny.

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                            • #44
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                              Originally posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
                              Let me get this straight so there's no misunderstanding here - you'd advocate bringing back talentless players who took us into a relegation battle just because they're up for that battle?
                              You have asked me that question earlier , phrased the same way

                              Have you not read the reply ?

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                              • #45
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                                Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
                                Analogy for you sludge, that i think you will understand. If i went to a lake and threw a couple of sticks of dynamite in the water and up popped loads of dead fish, would that be fishing? some people may say that it is, after all, objective achieved, fish caught, nets full, but it isn't sustainable, it can't be developed, blowing things up simply wont do in the long term, although the initial yield is impressive. That's the type of football you seem to be advocating. Long ball, anti football, winning by spoiling. It's short term, and the fall out is huge when other teams find you out. We have to develop into something sustainable.
                                Well you can call it whatever you like . We have got to start winning matches . Or we are going down .

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