Relegation

[J R Hartley]

Re: Relegation

We more or less had a 1 man midfield. Ralls and lets face it hes all energy and not likely to be playing many defence splitting passes.

Get King back.

King has been in and out of a Crewe side that are not turning up trees to expect him to come back in to a championship midfield and start dictating matters is wishful thinking.

For his own development a season at League Two is of more benefit than him playing the odd game at championship level.

[fugsyphil]

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Flint can't get in a stoke team one point above us so I doubt he was the solution

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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I don't think you quite understand

Players like flint would be perfect for the season long battle we are face

But we got rid of him

And many fans were happy as cats lying in the sun 🌞

Well now they are seeing the result

Players like Flint were the reason we finished 18th and spent the season fending off crap sides like Barnsley and Peterborough.

Let me get this straight so there's no misunderstanding here - you'd advocate bringing back talentless players who took us into a relegation battle just because they're up for that battle?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Players like Flint were the reason we finished 18th and spent the season fending off crap sides like Barnsley and Peterborough.

Let me get this straight so there's no misunderstanding here - you'd advocate bringing back talentless players who took us into a relegation battle just because they're up for that battle?

Listen your dream of fancy football is going sour

There we go

Flint and players like him .....who were far from talentless .....were exactly the kind of players CCFC needed

If you want to watch the pretty football you are used to watching on SKY then that's fair enough but we don't have that style or ethos at this club and making drastic changes to placate the likes of you is exactly why we are where we are

If we had 4 or 5 workhorses through the spine of the team we wouldn't be struggling big time like we are

When you have people barking orders on the pitch then players like ojo and sawyers don't have anywhere to hide

If you were manager the players would be getting counselling every time they fell over

[NYCBlue]

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Listen your dream of fancy football is going sour

There we go

Flint and players like him .....who were far from talentless .....were exactly the kind of players CCFC needed

If you want to watch the pretty football you are used to watching on SKY then that's fair enough but we don't have that style or ethos at this club and making drastic changes to placate the likes of you is exactly why we are where we are

If we had 4 or 5 workhorses through the spine of the team we wouldn't be struggling big time like we are

When you have people barking orders on the pitch then players like ojo and sawyers don't have anywhere to hide

If you were manager the players would be getting counselling every time they fell over

Blah blah blah. Change the record. Any club at Championship level that does well, gets promoted and stays promoted for more than one season does so by playing football. Neat passing, pace, movement off the ball, playing to and knowing a system etc. Not by shouting at each other. You're living in the past.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Blah blah blah. Change the record. Any club at Championship level that does well, gets promoted and stays promoted for more than one season does so by playing football. Neat passing, pace, movement off the ball, playing to and knowing a system etc. Not by shouting at each other. You're living in the past.

And you are living in America 🇺🇸

[City123]

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Listen your dream of fancy football is going sour

There we go

Flint and players like him .....who were far from talentless .....were exactly the kind of players CCFC needed

If you want to watch the pretty football you are used to watching on SKY then that's fair enough but we don't have that style or ethos at this club and making drastic changes to placate the likes of you is exactly why we are where we are

If we had 4 or 5 workhorses through the spine of the team we wouldn't be struggling big time like we are

When you have people barking orders on the pitch then players like ojo and sawyers don't have anywhere to hide

If you were manager the players would be getting counselling every time they fell over

How did we do last season?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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How did we do last season?

We stayed up quite comfortably

We won't be doing that this year unless we get some spine and muscle in the team

[City123]

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We stayed up quite comfortably

We won't be doing that this year unless we get some spine and muscle in the team

What happened in the first half of that season that put us into danger and who was responsible? What style of football did we play in the first half of the season?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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What happened in the first half of that season that put us into danger and who was responsible? What style of football did we play in the first half of the season?

So you think that the second half of the season is what saved us ? I would argue the final third contributed to taking us to safety but the first half was saved by the second half which saved us ?

I can't agree with that

If we lose against Sheffield United that will be 6 defeats in 8 matches

That's what will get us relegated

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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Listen your dream of fancy football is going sour

There we go

Flint and players like him .....who were far from talentless .....were exactly the kind of players CCFC needed

If you want to watch the pretty football you are used to watching on SKY then that's fair enough but we don't have that style or ethos at this club and making drastic changes to placate the likes of you is exactly why we are where we are

If we had 4 or 5 workhorses through the spine of the team we wouldn't be struggling big time like we are

When you have people barking orders on the pitch then players like ojo and sawyers don't have anywhere to hide

If you were manager the players would be getting counselling every time they fell over

Let me get this straight so there's no misunderstanding here - you'd advocate bringing back talentless players who took us into a relegation battle just because they're up for that battle?

[Tuerto]

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So you think that the second half of the season is what saved us ? I would argue the final third contributed to taking us to safety but the first half was saved by the second half which saved us ?

I can't agree with that

If we lose against Sheffield United that will be 6 defeats in 8 matches

That's what will get us relegated

Analogy for you sludge, that i think you will understand. If i went to a lake and threw a couple of sticks of dynamite in the water and up popped loads of dead fish, would that be fishing? some people may say that it is, after all, objective achieved, fish caught, nets full, but it isn't sustainable, it can't be developed, blowing things up simply wont do in the long term, although the initial yield is impressive. That's the type of football you seem to be advocating. Long ball, anti football, winning by spoiling. It's short term, and the fall out is huge when other teams find you out. We have to develop into something sustainable.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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If we lose against Sheffield United that will be 6 defeats in 8 matches

That's what will get us relegated

Yet McCarthy's long ball, physical approach lost us 8 matches in a row. That didn't end up getting us relegated.

You're having a leathering here, sonny.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Let me get this straight so there's no misunderstanding here - you'd advocate bringing back talentless players who took us into a relegation battle just because they're up for that battle?

You have asked me that question earlier , phrased the same way

Have you not read the reply ?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Analogy for you sludge, that i think you will understand. If i went to a lake and threw a couple of sticks of dynamite in the water and up popped loads of dead fish, would that be fishing? some people may say that it is, after all, objective achieved, fish caught, nets full, but it isn't sustainable, it can't be developed, blowing things up simply wont do in the long term, although the initial yield is impressive. That's the type of football you seem to be advocating. Long ball, anti football, winning by spoiling. It's short term, and the fall out is huge when other teams find you out. We have to develop into something sustainable.

Well you can call it whatever you like . We have got to start winning matches . Or we are going down .