Are Wales crap, under-performing or a mixture of both?

[Sloop_Jon_Bee]

Re: Are Wales crap, under-performing or a mixture of both?

In my view it has been bad managerial decisions from day one. Not helped either by the 2016 tribute acts falling well short. Unfortunately you can't substitute a lack of match fitness.

Agree with this. In the two games thus far we have been undone because of our own fitness levels and lack of pace in our play because of it. I saw some of our players blowing for tugs in the first half against Iran. Iranian players never missed a beat when it came to pace and energy. To think of ot neither did the yanks.
Spedger

[Wales-Bales]

Re: Are Wales crap, under-performing or a mixture of both?

Ampadu was just behind Connor Roberts in absolute shockers v Iran. He played well defensively 2nd half v USA.

Moore has to be our player of the tournament and id rate him about 6/10.

I think the World Rankings can be taken with a pinch of salt there is no way us and Iran are top 20. And I dont think we ever were deserving of our highest ranking

Weve to a great extent been carried by Bale and Ramsey. Bale in particular for a few years was in a group behind Ronaldo and Messi as the best in the World.

With a 26 man squad for the pool of players we have some young players can rightly be pissed off when they see this squad perform so poorly.

Whether they themselves are good enough is another matter but I cant see how they can do worse.

I think we are just a very average side and that average side and those average players needed to be at the top of their game but theyve played badly.

They need a huge performance tomorrow night. Im not expecting a win or draw but lets het some pride back.

Player left on his own in midfield has a tough game shocker.

[neilw65]

Re: Are Wales crap, under-performing or a mixture of both?

I think mostly we are under performing.I wonder whether a better manager would have got more out of the squad.

[BLUETIT]

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I think mostly we are under performing.I wonder whether a better manager would have got more out of the squad.

N. Williams, Thomas, Colwill, Wilson, James, Harris, Moore, Johnson, Bale, Ramsey, all players better going forward than sideways or backwards, yet we still play negatively

[PontBlue]

Re: Are Wales crap, under-performing or a mixture of both?

It's been a combination of factors at this world cup. They include unfit and/or underperforming players, the conditions, especially against Iran and rank bad management and team selection.

I see Ampadu has been singled out but he was a one-man midfield against Iran so no wonder he looked poor.

Looking back this World Cup was an opportunity wasted and I may not get another chance to see us perform in the finals again.

[Wales-Bales]

Re: Are Wales crap, under-performing or a mixture of both?

It's been a combination of factors at this world cup. They include unfit and/or underperforming players, the conditions, especially against Iran and rank bad management and team selection.

I see Ampadu has been singled out but he was a one-man midfield against Iran so no wonder he looked poor.

Looking back this World Cup was an opportunity wasted and I may not get another chance to see us perform in the finals again.

He was absolutely knackered when he got subbed off after running himself into the ground in that heat.

[NYCBlue]

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Page can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. With a mix of players from various lower leagues playing against better teams what did we expect?

I fully understand this. But apart from the change he made in the second half against the USA, his decision-making has been poor in my opinion.

[Dave Blue]

Re: Are Wales crap, under-performing or a mixture of both?

We froze in the first half v USA but against a very useful side who were laughably underestimated on here in the build up.
Against Iran it was a combination of the conditions - vastly favouring Iran - our undercooked squad and rank poor play.
Generally we have punch hugely above our weight in recent times.

[Don Corleone]

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Bale and Ramsey still have a role to play in the upcoming Euro 2024 qualifiers, especially in our home games when we have to find a way to unlock defences, I don’t see either retiring from International football just yet

[City123]

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Bale and Ramsey still have a role to play in the upcoming Euro 2024 qualifiers, especially in our home games when we have to find a way to unlock defences, I don’t see either retiring from International football just yet

Bale was asked earlier if tomorrow could be his last game for Wales. One word answer, "No."

I can't see Bale retiring from internationals before he retires from club football. Hell, he might even retire from club football before internationals!

Stay with LA until the summer then come to Cardiff for a year and retire after Euro 24 having been the first player to captain Wales to three tournaments. You know it makes sense Gaz!

[Hilts]

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The conditions keep getting mentioned. While its an advantage to those who play in warmer climates it doesn't help when you cant keep the ball and we were passing the ball to Iranian players long before the heat took its toll.

Keep giving the ball away and of course you will be knackered if you have to chase it.

Im sure it was hot for England and they barely broke sweat and destroyed Iran.

The 2 goals. Its unfortunate for Allen that his errors were punished but you cant put that down to conditions. Nor Roberts ridiculous pass in the 1st half for the offside goal , or Hennessy charging out of goal or Rodon running out of defence v USA.

[City123]

Re: Are Wales crap, under-performing or a mixture of both?

The conditions keep getting mentioned. While its an advantage to those who play in warmer climates it doesn't help when you cant keep the ball and we were passing the ball to Iranian players long before the heat took its toll.

Keep giving the ball away and of course you will be knackered if you have to chase it.

Im sure it was hot for England and they barely broke sweat and destroyed Iran.

The 2 goals. Its unfortunate for Allen that his errors were punished but you cant put that down to conditions. Nor Roberts ridiculous pass in the 1st half for the offside goal , or Hennessy charging out of goal or Rodon running out of defence v USA.

We had 62% of possession apparently

[Citizen's Nephew]

Re: Are Wales crap, under-performing or a mixture of both?

The only one who was affected by the heat was Page before a ball was kicked.

[Hilts]

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We had 62% of possession apparently

Doesnt suprise me. What we did with that possession until we lost it was one of the issues.

[tforturton]

Re: Are Wales crap, under-performing or a mixture of both?

We have a number of [layers who are coming to the end of the international careers - Bale, Ramsey, Morrison, Gunter, maybe Hennessy. We don't really have players of the same quality coming through, though there are a couple of bright prospects. In our recent games, we've set out wrong from the start both times, though you can se why Page thought that. Like everyone else has said, we've had a great 7 years, and it's going to a close. We're going to have to start again. Not sure Page is the right guy for that, though.