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  • #46
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    Originally posted by Alex! View Post
    An incredible win. Just speechless.

    The fact that this team is stuck behind a paywall pains me - they are deserving of the attention of the public
    Good point.

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    • #47
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      Fantastic performance and great captaincy by Stokes.

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      • #48
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        What a test match

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        • #49
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          Originally posted by Undercoverinwurzelland View Post
          What a test match
          Highest total runs in any 5 - day test match, ever. And still a result.

          Only because Stokes dared to lose. Great stuff.

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          • #50
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            Originally posted by rich munn View Post
            Highest total runs in any 5 - day test match, ever. And still a result.

            Only because Stokes dared to lose. Great stuff.
            First time that both teams have scored more than 550 in their first innings and produced a positive result.
            Incredible stuff.

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            • #51
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              Apparently, Australia only took four wickets in the whole test when they played on the same ground earlier this year.

              When you consider that, apart from the last wicket, England’s spinners made little contribution, it was a great effort by the seamers to force the result robinson’s test career started in an unfortunate manner, but he’s turning into a very good international bowler.

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              • #52
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                fair play they got the declaration absolutely spot on, very brave decision

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                • #53
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                  Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                  Apparently, Australia only took four wickets in the whole test when they played on the same ground earlier this year.

                  When you consider that, apart from the last wicket, England’s spinners made little contribution, it was a great effort by the seamers to force the result robinson’s test career started in an unfortunate manner, but he’s turning into a very good international bowler.
                  One of the interesting things for me was England's approach on the 4th evening.
                  Knowing their most potent weapon today was going to be swing, particularly reverse swing, they spent the evening session bowling bouncers just to rough up the ball. Not many teams wouldn't put any slips in at the start of an innings.

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                  • #54
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                    I watched the highlights this afternoon (didn't follow the match itself) and every time the England fans sang their 'Mrs Robinson' homage to Ollie Robinson, I heard James Fox singing 'Here's to you Peter Whittingham' in my head.

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                    • #55
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                      Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
                      I watched the highlights this afternoon (didn't follow the match itself) and every time the England fans sang their 'Mrs Robinson' homage to Ollie Robinson, I heard James Fox singing 'Here's to you Peter Whittingham' in my head.

                      I would argue that you could pick Stokes in the side even if he didn’t contribute with bat or ball . Before my time but didn’t England pick Mike Brearley on his captaincy alone ?

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                      • #56
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                        This England good, the other England bad.

                        I'm no closet St Georger but isn't this hypocritical? Just throwing it out there. And before anyone retorts with "Ah, But it's the England And Wales Cricket Board"......I never hear Wales mentioned.

                        I'm on my second coffee.

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                        • #57
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                          Originally posted by Citizen's Nephew View Post
                          This England good, the other England bad.

                          I'm no closet St Georger but isn't this hypocritical? Just throwing it out there. And before anyone retorts with "Ah, But it's the England And Wales Cricket Board"......I never hear Wales mentioned.

                          I'm on my second coffee.
                          It is the England and Wales Cricket board.

                          On the football I couldnt care less if they win or lose. But would prefer them not to win the World Cup

                          Id rather they win the World Cup than Swansea get promoted though.

                          I know a lot of Welsh people who want the English team to do well. No different to those City fans wanting County to do well

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                          • #58
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                            Originally posted by Hilts View Post
                            It is the England and Wales Cricket board.

                            On the football I couldnt care less if they win or lose. But would prefer them not to win the World Cup

                            Id rather they win the World Cup than Swansea get promoted though.

                            I know a lot of Welsh people who want the English team to do well. No different to those City fans wanting County to do well
                            It's just that there's no W in ECB anymore. I think I'm correct in saying Glamorgan i.e. Hugh Morris at the time, voted to drop the W.

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                            • #59
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                              Originally posted by Citizen's Nephew View Post
                              This England good, the other England bad.

                              I'm no closet St Georger but isn't this hypocritical? Just throwing it out there. And before anyone retorts with "Ah, But it's the England And Wales Cricket Board"......I never hear Wales mentioned.

                              I'm on my second coffee.
                              Imagine there was no FAW, no international Welsh football team. All Welsh football sides were under the jurisdiction of the FA and Welsh players who were good enough played for the international side of the FA - England. Would you support the international side that represents Wales, even if Wales wasn't in the title?

                              That's how it is with cricket.

                              While I'm sure someone will point out differences, Ireland in rugby represents the north and south. Seems to be no real issue there.

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                              • #60
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                                Originally posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
                                Imagine there was no FAW, no international Welsh football team. All Welsh football sides were under the jurisdiction of the FA and Welsh players who were good enough played for the international side of the FA - England. Would you support the international side that represents Wales, even if Wales wasn't in the title?

                                That's how it is with cricket.

                                While I'm sure someone will point out differences, Ireland in rugby represents the north and south. Seems to be no real issue there.
                                I'd rather support a Wales cricket team. We're tagged onto the English whilst Ireland and Scotland have their own. I believe it's Glamorgan CC that is the stumbling block to this gaining traction.

                                When I went to Trent Bridge for a WC game a few years ago, you'd have had no idea Wales was hosting the WC too. At Sophia Gardens they play Jerusalem (nothing against the tune but it doesn't get more English than that).

                                We've had discussions about Cymru and Wales recently (and I think you and I had a misunderstanding - side note: Mrs Citizen who's a Londoner speaks more Welsh than I do and even has her own WhatsApp group and is a Duolingo junkie). There's been discussions about this (Wales cricket not Mrs C) in the Senedd. I find the subject interesting.

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