Hudson on Colwill

[A Quiet Monkfish]

Re: Hudson on Colwill

Don't you find it A BIT strange that he seems to be able to get into the Wales side (including a WC team) and yet struggles to get picked regularly for his (relegation threatened) club?

Because I do.

It's strange, but I think the strange bit is more to do with his being picked for Wales than not for City. Me ? I don't think he's good enough for Championship football in a top 6 side. Naturally too slow on his feet and has the same work ethic as Josh Murphy.But I wonder if there's something else going on here. Was Colwill the reason Morison got the sack ? Was he the player who kept complaining - via others - that Morison was a 'bully' ?

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Hudson on Colwill

You'd be forgiven for thinking so, Bob, but they made 26 appearances together in Mackay's first season as manager. Not necessarily as first choice centre midfield pairing as McPhail was more of a bench player that season, starting only 16 games in all competitions.

Really, that does surprise me. I didn't think McPhail played so often under Malky Mackay - five or six matches yes, but not that many. I was convinced that McPhail barely played for us again after his Sjögren's syndrome and Raynaud's phenomenon diagnosis.

[Tuerto]

Re: Hudson on Colwill

The club don't think he's good enough and i'm not sure that i do either, There probably has been something going on connected to Colwill and his body, but it seems like it's code for something else. The club don't know where to play him, he can't defend or tackle very well and unlike Lee Tomlin is not aggressive or possess the ability to put himself in good intelligent positions. In short, i reckon that Colwill isn't the brightest on a football pitch. Just my opinion, it may well be a complete load of shit :thumbup:

[llan bluebird]

Re: Hudson on Colwill

Morison and Hudson are newly qualified and with any newly qualified person like teachers, police, fast-tracked managers they are useless until they understand the job, which is why they should never have been appointed to a championship club until they understood the role and proved they are a difference maker in it. But Vinny is penny-wise, pound stupid nowadays.

Colwills touch, deftness of pass, and ability to travel with the ball marks him out as a talent to nurture, promote and sell, especially when the owner is trying to recoup as much as he can, but we still don't know if he can do it physically yet.

The money in the game has changed it since Ledleys time, I doubt Lenny or DJ would give the medical team as much sway as obviously, the last two managers have, but we need to "risk" Rubin and find out whether he is up to the rigours of championship football as the next level demand even more of him physically and surely that's why we are fattening him up for, a transfer to the premier league.

Ledley looked like a midfielder, Colwill doesn't to my medically untrained eyes, but nor did Tomlin either.

[splott parker]

Re: Hudson on Colwill

The crux of the matter is we’re constantly being told that he’s a very good player yet he’s being wrapped in cotton wool when we could do with good players at the moment let alone very good players. Christ, not three weeks or so ago he was playing against England in the World Cup.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Hudson on Colwill

If Colwill was fit he would be in the team

If he was 17 and fit he might be in the team

But he's of an age now that if he was match ready he would be playing

He's an enigmatic sort of player that every side needs

So forget all the yakking , he's not fit

[Hilts]

Re: Hudson on Colwill

It's strange, but I think the strange bit is more to do with his being picked for Wales than not for City. Me ? I don't think he's good enough for Championship football in a top 6 side. Naturally too slow on his feet and has the same work ethic as Josh Murphy.But I wonder if there's something else going on here. Was Colwill the reason Morison got the sack ? Was he the player who kept complaining - via others - that Morison was a 'bully' ?

He doesnt need to be good enough for a top 6 championship team at the moment. He needs to be good enough for a bottom 6 team.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Re: Hudson on Colwill

Really, that does surprise me. I didn't think McPhail played so often under Malky Mackay - five or six matches yes, but not that many. I was convinced that McPhail barely played for us again after his Sjögren's syndrome and Raynaud's phenomenon diagnosis.

I don't think he lasted 90 minutes in any of his starts. He even started one of the playoff legs.

[dml1954]

Re: Hudson on Colwill

We’re really hoping against hope re. Colwill aren’t we. If he does fulfil our desired optimism he’ll be a world beater, never known a player for us to be so ‘willed on’ by the fans and never known so many excuses/reasons given for his failure to kick on. I really hope it does work out for him and us but, in reality, he should have a 100+ appearances under his belt by now. Unbelievable that he’s a player who’s played in the World Cup Finals Tournament yet a couple of weeks later is still being pussyfooted around the first XI of a side in 19th place in the Championship.

I would really like to know how you think that Colwill could/should have made over 100 appearances for City by now, bearing in mind that he only made his debut in April 2021 as a nineteen year old, there have only been about 70 league games since then and for most of this season he has been out injured as well. I hardly think that nine minutes at the end of an already lost World Cup match counts as a meaningful contribution. If he was that fit and ready to play and the Wales manager thought he was that good, surely he would have started at least one of the other two games or been brought on sooner in others ? If you also look at photos of Colwill from 2019 and compare them with what he looks like now, there has been a dramatic change in his height and physique, something that a number of the contributors on this thread seem totally unable to grasp, in the quest to discredit everything the club does. Quelle surprise.

[dml1954]

Re: Hudson on Colwill

Morison and Hudson are newly qualified and with any newly qualified person like teachers, police, fast-tracked managers they are useless until they understand the job, which is why they should never have been appointed to a championship club until they understood the role and proved they are a difference maker in it. But Vinny is penny-wise, pound stupid nowadays.

Colwills touch, deftness of pass, and ability to travel with the ball marks him out as a talent to nurture, promote and sell, especially when the owner is trying to recoup as much as he can, but we still don't know if he can do it physically yet.

The money in the game has changed it since Ledleys time, I doubt Lenny or DJ would give the medical team as much sway as obviously, the last two managers have, but we need to "risk" Rubin and find out whether he is up to the rigours of championship football as the next level demand even more of him physically and surely that's why we are fattening him up for, a transfer to the premier league.

Ledley looked like a midfielder, Colwill doesn't to my medically untrained eyes, but nor did Tomlin either.

Bob Paisley and Joe Fagan (plus others from the boot room) were promoted from within at Liverpool with no management experience whatsoever but didn't seem to do too badly at it. Hudson had managed at Championship and Premier League level before he was appointed here.

[NYCBlue]

Re: Hudson on Colwill

The club don't think he's good enough and i'm not sure that i do either, There probably has been something going on connected to Colwill and his body, but it seems like it's code for something else. The club don't know where to play him, he can't defend or tackle very well and unlike Lee Tomlin is not aggressive or possess the ability to put himself in good intelligent positions. In short, i reckon that Colwill isn't the brightest on a football pitch. Just my opinion, it may well be a complete load of shit :thumbup:

This. I don't even think that free kick was that great. The keeper had a 'mare.

Also, can we put to bed this "he plays for Wales but not City" nonsense? He played for 9 minutes.

[Hilts]

Re: Hudson on Colwill

Colwill or Rinamotha?

Has to be Colwill.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Hudson on Colwill

He's got something different

Shoulder drop , dummies , picking a pass

He's definitely got the class to be a very good player at this level

But he's struggling with fitness

It will be that which is the deal breaker not wether or not He's good enough

He clearly is

[NYCBlue]

Re: Hudson on Colwill

Has he ever put in a solid 90 minutes for City? And been influential for the whole game? Or at least most of it? Genuine question.

[Maurice Swan]

Re: Hudson on Colwill

I am not convinced......too weak in challenges.....despite his size....and goes around the pitch half-mast instead of steaming forward.....His main 'claim to fame' are the two goals against Forest....I am old enough to remember many youngsters coming though at 18 -20....sink or swim...

Isaak Davies I have higher hopes for,..... IF he can renew his pace after injury.