Cardiff 20mph speed limit

[North Cardiff Blue]

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Have you seen in London they are sticking leaves on the number plates

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=914293140679877&id=100062975993527&_rdr

[goats]

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Maes-y-Coed Rd traffic is now backed up all the way to Ton-Yr-Ywen Primary school yet there was never an issue before. Its now one lane each way plus two deserted bike lanes. You could say 20mph works there, that's because everything is at a feckin' standstill.

Same down allensbank rd by the Heath hospital turn, why people trot down that way everyday and sit queuing for 15 min god only knows. I bet the people in those houses are so pleased to see traffic there for the first time ever, same goes heading north the other way on allensbank rd, all due to the cycle lane put in. Cathays terrace, another mare’…I bet pollution levels are currently through the roof in these areas. Still, everyone can afford an electric car so everything will be just fine soon….

[goats]

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Have you seen in London they are sticking leaves on the number plates

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?s...975993527&_rdr

That’s a great idea, loads of leaves by me too

[goats]

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The installation of a cycle lane close to the Caerphilly Road junction means the the right or left turn filters have been lost. There is only one lane, so it is very easy for a long queue of traffic to get stuck behind a single car, waiting to turn right. It's very poor planning, on what is a very busy junction.

Same turning into the hospital, no right filter so sometimes only one car goes in….

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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I will say that, as someone who doesn't drive in Cardiff that often, it seems that Cardiff Council are hell bent on ruining car travel more than other councils around South Wales. There seems to be big discrepancies in different councils as well, so it's not just a Labour party thing, but the individuals who make up these councils. I think a lot of people forget that. I reckon that council decisions on all manner of things are usually nothing to do with the elected party, but those individuals voted into office.

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I will say that, as someone who doesn't drive in Cardiff that often, it seems that Cardiff Council are hell bent on ruining car travel more than other councils around South Wales

"I rarely drive in Cardiff but here's a really strong sweeping statement about driving in Cardiff"

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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"I rarely drive in Cardiff but here's a really strong sweeping statement about driving in Cardiff"

Perhaps I should have worded it as "I don't regularly drive in Cardiff" then. Perhaps 2 or 3 times a month. I don't think I need to be driving there every day to have an opinion on driving in and around the place. I've seen long stretches of road that would never be 20mph in another local authority. I see cycle lanes are far more common than anywhere else.

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I see cycle lanes are far more common than anywhere else.

Yes and this is a good thing

[PontBlue]

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Perhaps I should have worded it as "I don't regularly drive in Cardiff" then. Perhaps 2 or 3 times a month. I don't think I need to be driving there every day to have an opinion on driving in and around the place. I've seen long stretches of road that would never be 20mph in another local authority. I see cycle lanes are far more common than anywhere else.

I would expect City and County Councils to have different approaches to County Borough Councils. Only Swansea and Newport would be comparable. Also Valley Council's are more likely to be able to reuse former railway line land for cyclepaths although I think they would have been better served as railway lines as part of a further expanded metro system.

[bobh]

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Perhaps I should have worded it as "I don't regularly drive in Cardiff" then. Perhaps 2 or 3 times a month. I don't think I need to be driving there every day to have an opinion on driving in and around the place. I've seen long stretches of road that would never be 20mph in another local authority. I see cycle lanes are far more common than anywhere else.

Yes and this is a good thing

As a former London cyclist, I 'd like to state my opinion. (disabled now, no neither drive or cycle)
Cyclist have been able to use bus lanes in most of the country for ages, never needed a dedicated lane that's wide enough for a tank.
Narrow cycle lanes in parks, yes, to minimise pedestrian collisions.
But these wide lanes are not, IMHO, justified for the number of cyclists in Cardiff. Also, they are nearer the kerb than bus lanes, so you get bus stops that are out on "island", this increases the chance of pedestrians trying to get on/off a bus being hit by a bike

I think the council is deliberately trying to make roads awkward for cars to force people onto bikes or public transport.
Tthis wouldn't be so bad if we had a decent public transport infrastructure.
I think that well-known cyclist who used to be first minister had a lot to do with this.

[llan bluebird]

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Be interested to know who the cycle lanes are designed/designated for?

Cyclists is the obvious answer I'd expect, but which cyclists?

In my eyes there are

Commuters and as all lanes lead to town I guess it for Uni, shop, office or local government workers although so do all buses, and trains if you are lucky enough to live on one of the few lines.

Lycra mob - who are never seen on lanes and ride in packs across the road as entitled mainly on weekends

Delivery riders - whatever the cargo, rarely use them and are a law to themselves

So are they worth all that money and disturbance?


I am not around during commuter hours to witness how many use them during prime hours, but the local and national governments are so far behind the curve, the future or present is electrified vehicles like scooters and bikes......Where are the plans for those 20~30 mph green vehicles?

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I think the council is deliberately trying to make roads awkward for cars to force people onto bikes or public transport.
Tthis wouldn't be so bad if we had a decent public transport infrastructure.

This is a fair point, I don't think it's a terrible thing for there to be less cars on the road (and I say that as someone who's main mode of transport is driving) but you have to have the infrastructure in place to make it logistically and cost efficient, both of which are lacking in this country