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  • Re: Manager rumours..

    Originally posted by LeningradCowboy View Post
    Which players in our squad are those? I can't think of many.
    I'm not sure either.

    A lot of these players left on frees for a reason and it wasn't because their clubs were busting a gut to keep them.

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      Originally posted by blue lewj View Post
      I'm not sure either.

      A lot of these players left on frees for a reason and it wasn't because their clubs were busting a gut to keep them.
      Pretty much all out of contract, happens all the time, not sure that means anything. Reading wanted to keep Rino but couldn’t afford to keep him.

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        Allsop doesn’t leave his line enough for me. Wigans equaliser last Saturday was a cross to the far post, inside the 6 yard box. He could have punched the ball clear with ease but didn’t. He has been doing that all season

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          People should remember that the same players were not this bad under Morison.

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            Originally posted by DubaiDai View Post
            People should remember that the same players were not this bad under Morison.
            Really? Morison's final game was a 1-0 defeat to a Huddersfield side who haven't been out of the relegation zone all season. The team failed to score in six of his eleven matches, including against League One opposition.

            City were poor this season under Morison and City are poor now.

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              Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
              Really? Morison's final game was a 1-0 defeat to a Huddersfield side who haven't been out of the relegation zone all season. The team failed to score in six of his eleven matches, including against League One opposition.

              City were poor this season under Morison and City are poor now.
              We were creating chances though. When Morison was here it was all about finding a way to get the players to take the chances that they kept wasting. In terms of overall match performances we're getting worse as the games roll on

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                Originally posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
                We were creating chances though. When Morison was here it was all about finding a way to get the players to take the chances that they kept wasting. In terms of overall match performances we're getting worse as the games roll on
                When Morison got sacked, we had the second lowest shots in the box in the league. We didn't score in 5 of his last 7. He signed 17 players, this is the mess he left.

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                  Originally posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
                  We were creating chances though. When Morison was here it was all about finding a way to get the players to take the chances that they kept wasting. In terms of overall match performances we're getting worse as the games roll on
                  Maybe it was because it was early in the season and I had a feeling that, although we were never going to be prolific in front of goal, things would improve once the squad knew each other's game better, but it's just not happened and, if anything our forward play has got worse as the season has gone on.

                  Worse than that, what I thought was an improved midfield has hit the buffers in recent weeks and there's now signs that we're struggling defensively. You can't argue with the attacking stats people put up which show we were poor under Morison in that department, but I agree with you - performance levels have got far worse since the World Cup break and, despite not having won in ten, our results in our last four league games in particular have been better than the performances have merited.

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                    Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                    Maybe it was because it was early in the season and I had a feeling that, although we were never going to be prolific in front of goal, things would improve once the squad knew each other's game better, but it's just not happened and, if anything our forward play has got worse as the season has gone on.

                    Worse than that, what I thought was an improved midfield has hit the buffers in recent weeks and there's now signs that we're struggling defensively. You can't argue with the attacking stats people put up which show we were poor under Morison in that department, but I agree with you - performance levels have got far worse since the World Cup break and, despite not having won in ten, our results in our last four league games in particular have been better than the performances have merited.
                    They seem like a squad of utility players. Nothing wrong with any of them but just not particularly strong or weak in any department.

                    I’m not sure we’ll see anything other than a relegation battle every season with the squad as I don’t see them being able to up their performance with a better manager.

                    Of course, a better manager might not make stupid decisions like play 5 centre backs or putting on a unfit winger to chase down a premier league defence, but I don’t see a play off chase for a very long time

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                      We were certainly poor at times under Morison, especially towards the end of his tenure. But we also had periods or even a couple of games where we played great stuff and didn’t score, which is something he absolutely bears responsibility for in not bringing in a striker or two.

                      What I would argue is that we are no longer poor, we are impossible to watch unorganized boring shite who don’t look they have a plan. Where we weren’t winning earlier in the season because we weren’t putting away the chances or having the movement in the box to get on the end of promising moves, now we aren’t even looking remotely dangerous in the final third for most of the time.

                      There’s no question we’ve not been a top half team since that great first result but for me, we have gone from a decent looking champ team I felt would end up being mid table under Morison to absolute nailed on relegation favorites the last few weeks under Hudson. Just my opinion.

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                        I’m not sure any manager could save us this season, we just had a run of games where 3 points were needed and failed in all of them. Tougher matches coming up. League one eh? Nice work Mehmet

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                          We could be mid-table in League One next season with most of the same players and some people on here would still be claiming that the team world have come good under Morison.

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                            Originally posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
                            When Morison got sacked, we had the second lowest shots in the box in the league. We didn't score in 5 of his last 7. He signed 17 players, this is the mess he left.
                            He had to sign a new squad in a single window on a nothing budget. His main signing, our now top scorer and assist maker, he got to use maybe once or twice.

                            I'm not convinced we would be a whole lot better off either but the majority of the blame lies with the board. Who we have as manager is becoming increasingly irrelevant.

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                              Originally posted by LeningradCowboy View Post
                              We could be mid-table in League One next season with most of the same players and some people on here would still be claiming that the team world have come good under Morison.
                              On 30th Jan 22, we beat Forest 2-1. We played Smithies; Drameh, Ng, Morrison, McGuinness, Doughty; Doyle, Wintle, Ralls; Hugill, Watters. Of our 17 new signings, I think Kipre comes in for Ng or McGuinness, and Robinson starts over Watters. Probably O'Dowda over Doughty.

                              In the summer we lost Smithies, Drameh, Morrison, McGuinness, Doughty, Doyle, Hugill, Uche, Vaulks, Bacuna, Pack, Phillips, Flint and Collins. Regardless of how good some of them are, we've replaced them gambles and kids. Simpson, Ojo, Sawyers and Nkounkou are useless. Daley-Campbell is 22 in April and can't get on the bench. Allsop and Alnwick are worse than Smithies and Phillips. Sawyers is worse than Pack and Bacuna. Of the other young players, Etete and Tanner are miles off the level at the moment, and we needed them to be ready now. Rinomhota isn't very good and isn't a huge upgrade over Vaulks etc. Adams is a complete unknown while even one of the good signings in Romeo isn't as good as Drameh. Robinson, O'Dowda and Collins and Romeo have been successes and Philogene blows hot and cold but that's a young winger for you. Thank God McGuinness is back. Whoever the new manager is, has a hell of a job on their hands.

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                                Originally posted by Trigger View Post
                                He had to sign a new squad in a single window on a nothing budget. His main signing, our now top scorer and assist maker, he got to use maybe once or twice.

                                I'm not convinced we would be a whole lot better off either but the majority of the blame lies with the board. Who we have as manager is becoming increasingly irrelevant.
                                Board useless. Agreed. Morison also useless. Morison didn't have to release the likes of Flint and Vaulks. He chose to, most had one year options. Morison had a clean slate to sign whoever he pleased and he's come away with 4 hits out of a possible 17? He also spent a lot more money than other clubs in the division.

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