Denial , The Trial Of Holocaust Denier David Irving

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Just seen it on BBC 2

Nothing spectacular but a good watchable film

Timothy Spall is looking old

Irving , what a xxxx he was

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Re: Denial , The Trial Of Holocaust Denier David Irving

Just seen it on BBC 2

Nothing spectacular but a good watchable film

Timothy Spall is looking old

Irving , what a xxxx he was

Unfunny fact of the day - I was once seated (involuntarily) next to David Irving on a plane from Miami to LHR.

Despite his vain attempts to drop hints about his "fame", I pretended I had never heard of him. He also had bad BO.

I think he's now dead - good.

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Unfunny fact of the day - I was once seated (involuntarily) next to David Irving on a plane from Miami to LHR.

Despite his vain attempts to drop hints about his "fame", I pretended I had never heard of him. He also had bad BO.

I think he's now dead - good.

The only good nazi is a dead one

[poc]

Re: Denial , The Trial Of Holocaust Denier David Irving

Just seen it on BBC 2

Nothing spectacular but a good watchable film

Timothy Spall is looking old

Irving , what a xxxx he was

watch the begining of the holocaust documentary, think it was bbc, hard to watch some of it ,but i never knew the way countries like lithuania behaved in it

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watch the begining of the holocaust documentary, think it was bbc, hard to watch some of it ,but i never knew the way countries like lithuania behaved in it

A lot of the fringe states were either complicit or scared

Some of them provided willing participants to do hitlers work

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I wonder what would have happened here had Adolf and his chums had managed to successfully take over the UK.

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Re: Denial , The Trial Of Holocaust Denier David Irving

I wonder what would have happened here had Adolf and his chums had managed to successfully take over the UK.

It doesn't really bear thinking about

Having said that Germany is a modern multi racial progressive country and although not always liberal its liberal minded in its laws

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Re: Denial , The Trial Of Holocaust Denier David Irving

One of the great questions of history.

I think the short answer is that he didn't want to. There was a point after the fall of France and before the invasion of the USSR where we were effectively alone in fighting the Nazis. Many called for us to make peace with them but Churchill didn't.

What would have happened, who knows. But Germany and USSR would have carved up Europe together although I think it's inevitable those two countries would have come into conflict soon enough anyway.

Had the Nazis won the war and established a third Reich I think it's history may have been similar to the USSR..one of gradual liberalisation in phases but ultimately ending in collapse as 'the west' would have overtaken it economically and socially. Their greatest crimes (like those of the USSR) would have remained mere gossip for decades. A horrifying thought.

That said, what would even have been left of the west if Germany won? Would America have challenged it? Would Britain? Would Australia have been free or a client state of Japan.

Fascinating questions.

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Re: Denial , The Trial Of Holocaust Denier David Irving

One of the great questions of history.

I think the short answer is that he didn't want to. There was a point after the fall of France and before the invasion of the USSR where we were effectively alone in fighting the Nazis. Many called for us to make peace with them but Churchill didn't.

What would have happened, who knows. But Germany and USSR would have carved up Europe together although I think it's inevitable those two countries would have come into conflict soon enough anyway.

Had the Nazis won the war and established a third Reich I think it's history may have been similar to the USSR..one of gradual liberalisation in phases but ultimately ending in collapse as 'the west' would have overtaken it economically and socially. Their greatest crimes (like those of the USSR) would have remained mere gossip for decades. A horrifying thought.

That said, what would even have been left of the west if Germany won? Would America have challenged it? Would Britain? Would Australia have been free or a client state of Japan.

Fascinating questions.

America would only have intervened if it was in their own interest as they and let's be honest other major players have always been like that

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Denial , The Trial Of Holocaust Denier David Irving

Just watched the film, thought it was very good.

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Re: Denial , The Trial Of Holocaust Denier David Irving

One of the great questions of history.

I think the short answer is that he didn't want to. There was a point after the fall of France and before the invasion of the USSR where we were effectively alone in fighting the Nazis. Many called for us to make peace with them but Churchill didn't.

What would have happened, who knows. But Germany and USSR would have carved up Europe together although I think it's inevitable those two countries would have come into conflict soon enough anyway.

Had the Nazis won the war and established a third Reich I think it's history may have been similar to the USSR..one of gradual liberalisation in phases but ultimately ending in collapse as 'the west' would have overtaken it economically and socially. Their greatest crimes (like those of the USSR) would have remained mere gossip for decades. A horrifying thought.

That said, what would even have been left of the west if Germany won? Would America have challenged it? Would Britain? Would Australia have been free or a client state of Japan.

Fascinating questions.

Questions, questions. What contribution did Britain make to the eventual outcome of WW2 ? Why did Britain declare war on Germany for going into an eastern European country - in the opposite direction to Western Europe ? Why did the USA financially back the Nazi regime ? And why was the UK totally f****d economically until the 1980's as a result of bankrupting themselves ?

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Re: Denial , The Trial Of Holocaust Denier David Irving

I wonder what would have happened here had Adolf and his chums had managed to successfully take over the UK.

have a look at the Channel Islands during the war...

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America would only have intervened if it was in their own interest as they and let's be honest other major players have always been like that

mendacious nonsense. The USA were involved way before Pearl Harbour. Look up destroyers for bases, which helped free up empire personnel and materiel.

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Questions, questions. What contribution did Britain make to the eventual outcome of WW2 ? Why did Britain declare war on Germany for going into an eastern European country - in the opposite direction to Western Europe ? Why did the USA financially back the Nazi regime ? And why was the UK totally f****d economically until the 1980's as a result of bankrupting themselves ?

the UK had guaranteed Polish neutrality. The UK has always sought for a balance of power on continental Europe. We've done so since at least the War of the Spanish Succession.

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Re: Denial , The Trial Of Holocaust Denier David Irving

I wonder what would have happened here had Adolf and his chums had managed to successfully take over the UK.

As i said, we'd be standing at the football with a bevvy in our hand!