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  • Failed Managers always in demand-Why

    They are failures, that’s why they got the sack and are now in the dole queue. Then why are these sort of managers always wanted by other clubs ? Dean Smith the latest one to be linked with mission impossible just off Leckwith Road. I just don’t understand. It’s the same or even worse in the Premier League. The merry go round at that level goes beyond, as far as I can see.
    Would you employ a failure ? I wouldn’t.

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    Re: Failed Managers always in demand-Why

    Originally posted by Ivortheengine View Post
    They are failures, that’s why they got the sack and are now in the dole queue. Then why are these sort of managers always wanted by other clubs ? Dean Smith the latest one to be linked with mission impossible just off Leckwith Road. I just don’t understand. It’s the same or even worse in the Premier League. The merry go round at that level goes beyond, as far as I can see.
    Would you employ a failure ? I wouldn’t.
    I think that even the most successful managers will have failed somewhere. Learning and development.

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      Re: Failed Managers always in demand-Why

      Originally posted by John Buchanan View Post
      I think that even the most successful managers will have failed somewhere. Learning and development.
      It’s a very short list of “only” successful managers. Eddie Howe failed dismally at Burnley but now at Newcastle?

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        Re: Failed Managers always in demand-Why

        Originally posted by Des Parrot View Post
        It’s a very short list of “only” successful managers. Eddie Howe failed dismally at Burnley but now at Newcastle?
        And Brendan Rogers failed at Reading but hasn't done too badly at Swansea and Leicester!!

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          Re: Failed Managers always in demand-Why

          define failed manager.

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            Re: Failed Managers always in demand-Why

            Originally posted by ToTaL ITK View Post
            define failed manager.
            Frank Lampard.

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              Re: Failed Managers always in demand-Why

              Originally posted by Ivortheengine View Post
              They are failures, that’s why they got the sack and are now in the dole queue. Then why are these sort of managers always wanted by other clubs ? Dean Smith the latest one to be linked with mission impossible just off Leckwith Road. I just don’t understand. It’s the same or even worse in the Premier League. The merry go round at that level goes beyond, as far as I can see.
              Would you employ a failure ? I wouldn’t.
              Everyone we could get has been sacked. Managers that don’t get sacked end up at super clubs. Heck, Ancelotti has been sacked

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                Re: Failed Managers always in demand-Why

                Why haven’t we got a Merry Go Round emoji?

                It’s a Merry Go Round..

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                  Re: Failed Managers always in demand-Why

                  Originally posted by Des Parrot View Post
                  It’s a very short list of “only” successful managers. Eddie Howe failed dismally at Burnley but now at Newcastle?
                  Fergie was failing at United. The rest is history.

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                    Re: Failed Managers always in demand-Why

                    Originally posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
                    Everyone we could get has been sacked. Managers that don’t get sacked end up at super clubs. Heck, Ancelotti has been sacked
                    I bought his book on the weekend, Quiet Leadership. The reasoning was for work, but as a football fan it's also of interest anyway.. only had a glance at it not has time to read it yet.

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                      Re: Failed Managers always in demand-Why

                      Originally posted by Ivortheengine View Post
                      They are failures, that’s why they got the sack and are now in the dole queue. Then why are these sort of managers always wanted by other clubs ? Dean Smith the latest one to be linked with mission impossible just off Leckwith Road. I just don’t understand. It’s the same or even worse in the Premier League. The merry go round at that level goes beyond, as far as I can see.
                      Would you employ a failure ? I wouldn’t.
                      Didn't Dean Smith take a rock bottom Walsall ( by some distance) to safety, and following seasons kept them around the play-offs? Same Smith then moving on to a fairly steady few years at Brentford before leading Aston Villa to promotion. I'm surprised he even shows his face in the public the loser!

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                        Re: Failed Managers always in demand-Why

                        Originally posted by Ivortheengine View Post
                        They are failures, that’s why they got the sack and are now in the dole queue. Then why are these sort of managers always wanted by other clubs ? Dean Smith the latest one to be linked with mission impossible just off Leckwith Road. I just don’t understand. It’s the same or even worse in the Premier League. The merry go round at that level goes beyond, as far as I can see.
                        Would you employ a failure ? I wouldn’t.
                        In a similar vein, fans sometimes clamour for the return of a manager or player even though they were sacked or released originally because they weren't good enough.

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                          Re: Failed Managers always in demand-Why

                          Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
                          Frank Lampard.
                          Lampards mistake was jumping into bigger jobs without the necessary grounding in management that a few years in the lower league's would have given him.
                          As a top class player there's no guarantee that will make you a top class manager as we've seen time and time again.
                          He might still turn out to be a half decent manager, if that what he wants to do, but the best way of learning any trade is by starting at the bottom and working your way up, whilst gaining the right experience on the way.

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                            Re: Failed Managers always in demand-Why

                            When I lived in the NE of England there was a similar merry-go-round of Working Mens Club Stewards.
                            One would get sacked, usually because of some "Accounting discrepancy", and the next thing you'd know is that he'd appear at the club down the road. I went on all the time.
                            I could never understand it either

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                              Re: Failed Managers always in demand-Why

                              I think I asked the question on here a few years ago. What makes a successful manager? Is it tactical acumen, man management, a mixture of both, good luck or something indefinable? I still don't know.

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