Warnock time?

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Re: Warnock time?

In 2016 Bamba and Hoilett were better than any of our players today.

They'd walk in our side. They were star players in a promotion side.

This side just aren't good enough. I hope we pull it out of the bag but it's a long way off. I don't see how we are going to score goals on a regular basis. We've had 4 managers this season and none have got a tune out of them.

[Bobby Dandruff]

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Bamba and Hoilett were not average players at Championship level in my opinion. I'd say that Warnock can build a team that suits his style of play, he has to have the players to do it, strong, aggressive, hard working, physical etc. Can you see any of this lot playing like that?

Well they are certainly playing below the standards of earlier in the season so potentially yes. There is certainly headroom to improve for all of them. Not by much maybe but enough to survive.

[LeningradCowboy]

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This lot haven't got it in them, they don't have the character of belief to get themselves out of this mess. We could end up bottom.

And we'll be stuck with the same bunch of losers next season. It's a total cluster****.

[blue matt]

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were we ever really going to get a result V M'borogh ? ? ? 3rd in the table V a team thats struggling for confidence and just a weak team

[Tuerto]

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There's not enough quality in this squad.

Agree, i don't know what people are waiting for, are players all of a sudden going to change how they play? This group are on their third manager, haven't we seen enough of them to know that they aren't good enough and don't seem to possess the short term attributes like willingness, character, responsibilty, the qualities that can pull you out of a shit situation. Not this lot, 30 games in, haven't we seen enough?

[bobh]

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Even Warnock couldn't polish a turd.

[Tuerto]

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were we ever really going to get a result V M'borogh ? ? ? 3rd in the table V a team thats struggling for confidence and just a weak team

We might as well just all **** off home then....

[blue matt]

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We might as well just all **** off home then....

realistically, this season in our current state, 'borough were never going to be a win game, lets be honest

[Tuerto]

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Well they are certainly playing below the standards of earlier in the season so potentially yes. There is certainly headroom to improve for all of them. Not by much maybe but enough to survive.

I admire your positivity Bob, i just don't feel it. This is a team in free fall, they don't know how to win.

[Whisperer]

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were we ever really going to get a result V M'borogh ? ? ? 3rd in the table V a team thats struggling for confidence and just a weak team

We were under orders to be positive by the good and the great.

[Tuerto]

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realistically, this season in our current state, 'borough were never going to be a win game, lets be honest

Lets be honest, we aren't in a position to pick and choose. Win, by any means possible. No character in this group of players. That's what i think.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Lets be honest, we aren't in a position to pick and choose. Win, by any means possible. No character in this group of players. That's what i think.

I agree , no spine in the team at all

If we go down I would keep 3 or 4

The rest in the bin

[superfeathers]

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He's 74 and retired. We may as well ask for trump to run the team

Is trump looking then?

[Divine Wright]

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Lets be honest, we aren't in a position to pick and choose. Win, by any means possible. No character in this group of players. That's what i think.

There are no means by which this team could have beaten Boro. That's what he is saying. It's not a complicated thing to understand.

If we can reproduce the relatively ok sequences of play from this game more often and against sides like Reading, Rotherham, Bristol City , Swansea , Stoke, Huddersfield, West Brom etc. then we might just avoid the drop by the skin of our teeth.

I'd argue that Hull was probably the one game we should have picked something up from, but not Middlesborough.

Lucky for us, the last three losses haven't changed things a great deal in terms of our position in the league. Tuesday, and to a greater extent Friday, is where we NEED to get some points. If we can scrape a point against Brum and get a big 3 points against Reading, things will start looking a bit more positive. Reading is a big, big game.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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There are no means by which this team could have beaten Boro. That's what he is saying. It's not a complicated thing to understand.

If we can reproduce the relatively ok sequences of play from this game more often and against sides like Reading, Rotherham, Bristol City , Swansea , Stoke, Huddersfield, West Brom etc. then we might just avoid the drop by the skin of our teeth.

I'd argue that Hull was probably the one game we should have picked something up from, but not Middlesborough.

Lucky for us, the last three losses haven't changed things a great deal in terms of our position in the league. Tuesday, and to a greater extent Friday, is where we NEED to get some points. If we can scrape a point against Brum and get a big 3 points against Reading, things will start looking a bit more positive. Reading is a big, big game.

I appreciate that but we have been saying every game is so important , we must win this game etc ....and now we are down to 15 to go