Personal pronouns in the workplace

[UNDERHILL1927]

Re: Personal pronouns in the workplace

without coming across as all PC and snowflakey ( and I never thought I would type that on here about myself :shrug:) it really doesnt Hurt you to try and be obliging to Martin / Martina

Nothing snowflakey about empathy mate. The world needs more of it

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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It’s interesting observing this from afar, no such thing exists here, not even a consideration for discussion. I understand that the opinion will be that Poland is decades behind the UK but that’s the way it is.

It’s similar with regards to racism, the perception is very different

I know that it is also being addressed linguistically in France, Germany and Spain.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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Am I reading this correctly. Politeness dictates you have to refer to someone how they wish to be addressed?

I suppose that would extend to a crossdressing bloke who's 6' 4" and has a beard down to his knees whose name is Martin but identifies as Martina on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays?

What a load of bollox!

Surely it's up to the person being addressed how they wish to be addressed? If everyone adhered to that simple bit of common decency we'd have no problems.

I'm sure that if I addressed you as a prejudiced old cock face you'd not be too happy, which is why I never would never refer to you as that.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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without coming across as all PC and snowflakey ( and I never thought I would type that on here about myself :shrug:) it really doesnt Hurt you to try and be obliging to Martin / Martina

Absolutely, and this is what I cannot understand. Some people get all annoyed at not being able to address someone as they want because that person doesn't want it. Weird.

[the other bob wilson]

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What I don’t get is why anyone would want to be referred to as it.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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What I don’t get is why anyone would want to be referred to as it.

Apart from that cousin in the Addams Family.

[dembethewarrior]

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What I don’t get is why anyone would want to be referred to as it.

Isn't it the correct way though if you stick to the rules of the English language?

Calling a single person they, they is plural isn't it?

I know it doesn't sound nice and I understand not wishing to be called it, but it is the right word.

[Organ Morgan.]

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Surely it's up to the person being addressed how they wish to be addressed? If everyone adhered to that simple bit of common decency we'd have no problems.

I'm sure that if I addressed you as a prejudiced old cock face you'd not be too happy, which is why I never would never refer to you as that.

You may be okay to go along with an obvious pretence rather than risk causing offence, but some of us retain a backbone.

[the other bob wilson]

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Isn't it the correct way though if you stick to the rules of the English language?

Calling a single person they, they is plural isn't it?

I know it doesn't sound nice and I understand not wishing to be called it, but it is the right word.

I take your point, but I’ll always think calling a person it is either an insult, a joke or a mixture of both.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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Isn't it the correct way though if you stick to the rules of the English language?

Calling a single person they, they is plural isn't it?

I know it doesn't sound nice and I understand not wishing to be called it, but it is the right word.

There is a case when 'they' has been traditionally and correctly used as a singular (and on lieu of "he or she" e.g. "Regarding the person who borrowed the spare laptop, would they please return it as soon as possible."

[Organ Morgan.]

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I've referred to Neil Warnock here today as 'he' and as far as I know s/he self-identifies as a female, or gender neutral, and might be offended.

If it's impossible for a male to be a female and vice versa then it's every bit as impossible for a male or female to be a sausage roll or teapot.

[dembethewarrior]

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There is a case when 'they' has been traditionally and correctly used as a singular (and on lieu of "he or she" e.g. "Regarding the person who borrowed the spare laptop, would they please bring it back to the office"

And them?

[dembethewarrior]

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I take your point, but I’ll always think calling a person it is either an insult, a joke or a mixture of both.

I agree it sounds horrible

[UNDERHILL1927]

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I've referred to Neil Warnock here today as 'he' and as far as I know s/he self-identifies as a female, or gender neutral, and might be offended.

If it's impossible for a male to be a female and vice versa then it's every bit as impossible for a male or female to be a sausage roll or teapot.

You know that’s bollox, stop being pedantic for the sake of it. Live and let live ffs

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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You may be okay to go along with an obvious pretence rather than risk causing offence, but some of us retain a backbone.

So if someone asked you to refer to them in a certain way, you'd disrespect their wishes because you've got a backbone?