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Re: One reason why religion is a load of bollox.
There are quite a wide variety of religious views to be fair. We mostly hear about the more fundamentalist types.Originally posted by willo1927 View PostThe world would be a far better place without religion.
We are born
We live our life
We die
We rot in the ground
That just about sums it up
No gods or greater beings involved
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If it makes one happy and they believe doing “good” will make them go in to a better place, let them be I say. It’s when they harp on to others about it or get fundamental is the issue for me.Originally posted by Baloo View PostThere are quite a wide variety of religious views to be fair. We mostly hear about the more fundamentalist types.
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Or when they hide things like child abuse because they don't want their imaginary friend to get a bad name. Get rid of religion and we'd evolve as a race.Originally posted by goats View PostIf it makes one happy and they believe doing “good” will make them go in to a better place, let them be I say. It’s when they harp on to others about it or get fundamental is the issue for me.
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You’re sounding pretty fundamentalist yourself there. Religious groups like The Quakers accept members who are Non Theist and don’t actually believe in the supernatural or a divine being for instance. They do some great work however around justice, peace building and social action. The world would likely be a bit of a worse place if their beliefs were shoved where the sun don’t shine imo.Originally posted by willo1927 View PostAnd they can shove them where the sun doesn't shine.
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That would be a great thesis for a university student.Originally posted by UNDERHILL1927 View PostOr when they hide things like child abuse because they don't want their imaginary friend to get a bad name. Get rid of religion and we'd evolve as a race.
I wonder what proportion of child abuse is committed by 'non-religious' people.
I wonder what proportion of child abuse is committed by those with a mental health issue.
I wonder what proportion of child abuse is committed by those who are wealthy / in power.
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Re: One reason why religion is a load of bollox.
Originally posted by Baloo View PostYou’re sounding pretty fundamentalist yourself there. Religious groups like The Quakers accept members who are Non Theist and don’t actually believe in the supernatural or a divine being for instance. They do some great work however around justice, peace building and social action. The world would likely be a bit of a worse place if their beliefs were shoved where the sun don’t shine imo.
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Re: One reason why religion is a load of bollox.
I'm not a believer, although I can see the appeal of faith and the collective power of a religion. However, it's wrong to oppose the concept of religion due to some bad eggs.
Many societies have tried to eradicate religion and they are always worse than the ones that were tolerant of it; Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin. Even Hitler oppressed the church.
Religious fundementalism is just as bad if not worse, but religion isn't the problem; an extreme interpretation of it is.
The problem is always an extreme interpretation; whether its national identity, socialism, islam, christianity..whatever.
No doubt loads of truly awful people have hidden behind religion and those religions have helped them hide and do awful acts, but we shouldn't tar the entire concept of religion with that brush.
Just as how for centuries churches have organised and supported housing and food for the poor doesn't mean we overlook them when they do appalling things.
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Re: One reason why religion is a load of bollox.
Hitler may have opposed the church but the roman Catholic popes definitely supported himOriginally posted by JamesWales View PostI'm not a believer, although I can see the appeal of faith and the collective power of a religion. However, it's wrong to oppose the concept of religion due to some bad eggs.
Many societies have tried to eradicate religion and they are always worse than the ones that were tolerant of it; Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin. Even Hitler oppressed the church.
Religious fundementalism is just as bad if not worse, but religion isn't the problem; an extreme interpretation of it is.
The problem is always an extreme interpretation; whether its national identity, socialism, islam, christianity..whatever.
No doubt loads of truly awful people have hidden behind religion and those religions have helped them hide and do awful acts, but we shouldn't tar the entire concept of religion with that brush.
Just as how for centuries churches have organised and supported housing and food for the poor doesn't mean we overlook them when they do appalling things.
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