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  • One reason why religion is a load of bollox.

    Religious groups in UK failing children over sex abuse, report says https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58420270

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    Re: One reason why religion is a load of bollox.

    Originally posted by William Treseder View Post
    Religious groups in UK failing children over sex abuse, report says https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58420270
    oh yes

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      Re: One reason why religion is a load of bollox.

      The world would be a far better place without religion.
      We are born
      We live our life
      We die
      We rot in the ground
      That just about sums it up
      No gods or greater beings involved

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        Re: One reason why religion is a load of bollox.

        Originally posted by willo1927 View Post
        The world would be a far better place without religion.
        We are born
        We live our life
        We die
        We rot in the ground
        That just about sums it up
        No gods or greater beings involved
        There are quite a wide variety of religious views to be fair. We mostly hear about the more fundamentalist types.

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          Re: One reason why religion is a load of bollox.

          Originally posted by Baloo View Post
          There are quite a wide variety of religious views to be fair. We mostly hear about the more fundamentalist types.

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            Re: One reason why religion is a load of bollox.

            Originally posted by Baloo View Post
            There are quite a wide variety of religious views to be fair. We mostly hear about the more fundamentalist types.
            And they can shove them where the sun doesn't shine.

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              Re: One reason why religion is a load of bollox.

              Originally posted by Baloo View Post
              There are quite a wide variety of religious views to be fair. We mostly hear about the more fundamentalist types.
              If it makes one happy and they believe doing “good” will make them go in to a better place, let them be I say. It’s when they harp on to others about it or get fundamental is the issue for me.

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                Re: One reason why religion is a load of bollox.

                Originally posted by goats View Post
                If it makes one happy and they believe doing “good” will make them go in to a better place, let them be I say. It’s when they harp on to others about it or get fundamental is the issue for me.
                Or when they hide things like child abuse because they don't want their imaginary friend to get a bad name. Get rid of religion and we'd evolve as a race.

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                  Re: One reason why religion is a load of bollox.

                  Originally posted by willo1927 View Post
                  And they can shove them where the sun doesn't shine.
                  Hell?

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                    Re: One reason why religion is a load of bollox.

                    Originally posted by willo1927 View Post
                    And they can shove them where the sun doesn't shine.
                    You’re sounding pretty fundamentalist yourself there. Religious groups like The Quakers accept members who are Non Theist and don’t actually believe in the supernatural or a divine being for instance. They do some great work however around justice, peace building and social action. The world would likely be a bit of a worse place if their beliefs were shoved where the sun don’t shine imo.

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                      Re: One reason why religion is a load of bollox.

                      Originally posted by UNDERHILL1927 View Post
                      Or when they hide things like child abuse because they don't want their imaginary friend to get a bad name. Get rid of religion and we'd evolve as a race.
                      That would be a great thesis for a university student.

                      I wonder what proportion of child abuse is committed by 'non-religious' people.

                      I wonder what proportion of child abuse is committed by those with a mental health issue.

                      I wonder what proportion of child abuse is committed by those who are wealthy / in power.

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                        Re: One reason why religion is a load of bollox.

                        Originally posted by Baloo View Post
                        You’re sounding pretty fundamentalist yourself there. Religious groups like The Quakers accept members who are Non Theist and don’t actually believe in the supernatural or a divine being for instance. They do some great work however around justice, peace building and social action. The world would likely be a bit of a worse place if their beliefs were shoved where the sun don’t shine imo.

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                          Re: One reason why religion is a load of bollox.

                          I'm not a believer, although I can see the appeal of faith and the collective power of a religion. However, it's wrong to oppose the concept of religion due to some bad eggs.

                          Many societies have tried to eradicate religion and they are always worse than the ones that were tolerant of it; Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin. Even Hitler oppressed the church.

                          Religious fundementalism is just as bad if not worse, but religion isn't the problem; an extreme interpretation of it is.

                          The problem is always an extreme interpretation; whether its national identity, socialism, islam, christianity..whatever.

                          No doubt loads of truly awful people have hidden behind religion and those religions have helped them hide and do awful acts, but we shouldn't tar the entire concept of religion with that brush.

                          Just as how for centuries churches have organised and supported housing and food for the poor doesn't mean we overlook them when they do appalling things.

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                            Re: One reason why religion is a load of bollox.

                            Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                            I'm not a believer, although I can see the appeal of faith and the collective power of a religion. However, it's wrong to oppose the concept of religion due to some bad eggs.

                            Many societies have tried to eradicate religion and they are always worse than the ones that were tolerant of it; Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin. Even Hitler oppressed the church.

                            Religious fundementalism is just as bad if not worse, but religion isn't the problem; an extreme interpretation of it is.

                            The problem is always an extreme interpretation; whether its national identity, socialism, islam, christianity..whatever.

                            No doubt loads of truly awful people have hidden behind religion and those religions have helped them hide and do awful acts, but we shouldn't tar the entire concept of religion with that brush.

                            Just as how for centuries churches have organised and supported housing and food for the poor doesn't mean we overlook them when they do appalling things.
                            Hitler may have opposed the church but the roman Catholic popes definitely supported him

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