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You feel its dropping away in peoples minds and opinions as Putin had hoped for , you see so many gripes on social media boards about other stuff .
If this was a USA invasion my god we'd see much more anti western hysteria and protests
https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/ukraine
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...-live-updates/
Zelensky is CIA puppet so Ukraine has already been invaded, if not literally but by stealth.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
The best bet for everyone is for America to stop funding this bloody war, instruct their puppet Zelensky to pledge that he'll never join Nato and the EU then give independence or atleast a referendum to Crimea, Donbass, Londansk.
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lither_1927
So the events of 2014 never took place then :angry: when something as powerful as the maidan revolution / protests take place, surely we cant ignore that, the people spoke and were heardQuote:
Originally Posted by Lither_1927
Slava Ukrainiv:thumbup:
got any evidence to back up your claims about Zelensky being a CIA puppet?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lither_1927
The CIA pick their top infiltrators from comedy stores do theyQuote:
Originally Posted by Lither_1927
I've read that Euromaidan was a US funded coup. America has a long history of this. America has no place in Ukraine, they didn't like it when Russia put missiles on Cuba. Why should Russia accept Nato and the EU in Ukraine?Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
Well president Reagan was a Hollywood actor so why not? Zelensky is a coke head degenerate so ecapsulates the degeneracy spread by the current American regimeQuote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
clearly getting your opinions from Kremlin originating right wing websites these daysQuote:
Originally Posted by Lither_1927
The US had given the Ukraine $5 Billion since it broke away from the USSR in 91, this was spent on a wide range of projects, the truth being not the armed forces, especially in the later years having Yanukovych in charge ( he massively cut the defence budget , many look at that as unarming the Ukraine so Putin could invade Crimea and the Dombas area )Quote:
Originally Posted by Lither_1927
I am going out on a limb here and the story came from RT ( or one of its sites )Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
sites like redfish are openly pumping out pro Moscow contentQuote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
Why is the US buying influence in Ukraine? It's clearly tredding on Russian toes. Now we have a bloody war in Europe. He cut the budget because like America, Ukraine became complacent about Russian power.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
RJK I don't watch RT, But i bet you never consume non Western news on Ukraine.What do you watch?
Sites like the BBC pump out pro Ukraine content. No room for nuance in the BBC output.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Any credible links? Preferably multiple that can back up the other’s sources and information.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lither_1927
it was pumping in money to help a country that had left the USSR protective umbrella, the US gives " U.S aid " to many countries , another one is Romania since it left the USSRQuote:
Originally Posted by Lither_1927
Yanukovych cut to budget as he was a Putin Puppet President
funny how your nuance is unremittingly pro Moscow though isn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lither_1927
it's all the EU's fault!
Try Al Jazeera.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lither_1927
It shows the atrocities that the Russians are committing.
Also try Caspian Report for a Geopolitical look at what is happening.
What are your thoughts on vaccines?
My nuance is garnered from disgesting many news outlets. Where do you get yours? The Gaurdiand the BBC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
We have discussed the EU role in provoking Russia, you see a bloody war a price worth paying for EU expansionism. I don't.
That was you attributing that opinion to me, I have literally never said that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lither_1927
The Ukrainians are probably commiting the same atrocities. It's war after all. This is why i want America to pull the plug, give up on usurping Ukraine by proxy and save lives.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue
I've had vaccines as a kid but i refused the covid vaccines as i'm fit and healthy. I also think the covid vaccines were rushed through, so i'd rather wait to see long term outcomes.
No but that was the logical conclusion of your argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Do you think the EU should come out and say to Russia that it doesn't ever want Ukraine in the EU? Same with Nato...
So Ukraine should give up its sovereignty and its Citizens live subjugated to Moscow Rule?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lither_1927
On the other hand neither myself or Rjk in two separate threads needs to attribute your view that Zelinsky was a CIA installed puppet because they are your words. All we are missing is the evidence you have to support the view that (excluding the 12% of voters in Russian occupied territory) he won almost 75% of the vote in the 2019 election because of the CIA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lither_1927
For a man of your ego it shouldn't be that tricky.
Christ almighty on a bike...i thought organ and mozzer were ott but you've set a new standard. The healthy didn't take the vaccine to protect themselves but for their elderly loved ones. that's why the world went into lockdown...to protect the vunerable not you, you dozy twonk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lither_1927
It’s wales-bales why are you giving him the time of day
What's up Tito?Quote:
Originally Posted by rudy gestede
No. I don't think so. A few years ago when it came to conspiracy, itk, populist stuff, Gluey ruled the roost. Now he is just a bit part player whilst Organ Morgan, Mozz and Ron/Lither strut their stuff. Sad really!Quote:
Originally Posted by rudy gestede
And still children due in the name of an egoistic lunatic ,.
Whatever you think of the CIA at least it operates in a r free speech democratic environment than the Russians who deliver oppression of basic civil liberties via fear
civil liberties is actually written into the USA 's the Bill of Rights, of which the the Constitution. shows examples of civil liberties which include freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and the guarantee of a fair, unbiased trial.
Sorry I just cant see that existing in Putin's Russia, unless someone wants to show me the same freedoms of rights in Russia's laws and society.
I don’t think it was as clear cut as that …..Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
No but do countries usually “elect” comedians as presidents :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
Is he? He’s doing alright then all things considered…..wtf is Putin then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lither_1927
Part of the WEFQuote:
Originally Posted by goats
it isn't most people's logical conclusion, only those who have swallowed whole the narrative that Russia has put out would make that conclusion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lither_1927
Ukraine is a sovereign nation, it is none of Russia's business which countries it has ties to, the fault here is all Russias.
if Ireland suddenly entered into a close relationship with Iran or North Korea there would surely be a diplomatic response from us, but if we suddenly went to war in Ireland, and annexed a large part of it that would be totally on us, you couldn't say that Ireland provoked that response.
you seem keen to absolve Russia of any responsibility for their actions, when they are the aggressor and their response is clearly nothing to do with anything the EU are doing that is just a very weak excuse
Ukraine has had America and the CIA buying influence in it's country since the 90s. So much for a "sovereign" state. Sovereign states are few and far between, most are owned by the international banking system.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
If Ireland got heavily influenced by say China and China were intent on regime change in Britain. And China would potentially put Chinese nuclear weapons and millitary on Irish soil with nukes aimed at Britain. And the British cost of living would increase exponentially due to Irish agriculture being controlled by China. I would fully expect the British military to intervene in Ireland. Wouldn't you?
in that analogy China is America, Ukraine is Ireland.
Not sure why i'm asking you another question, you didn't answer the last one...
RJK. Do you think the EU should come out and say to Russia that it doesn't ever want Ukraine in the EU? Same with Nato...
Haha yeah Ok. The CIA are involved in regime change all the time. They were arming the Taliban and Bin Laden once upon a time.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
The American authorities get political "dissedents" in America banned from flying, their bank accounts closed. Plus, If you have the wrong opinion on youtube, Twitter, etc etc you get permenantly deplatformed. So much for America being "Home of the brave, Land Of The Free" it's Similar in this country and all across the West from what i can tell.
Ironically, the platform online with most tolerance to free speech is "Telegram" and it's Russian.
Seriously?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
How is he doing alright? Even for a coked up degenerate it's bad. He's lost eastern Ukraine and many thousands of "his" troops are DEAD.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
Also, some weapons donated to Ukraine are ending up on the black market. So, next time you're flying in Europe, place an extra pillow on your seat incase ISIS fire a surface to air missile at your commercial flight.
There’s some hypothetical sh!t being spouted in this thread.
Come here and talk to the people who have been directly effected. Those that have lost family to indiscriminate Russian shelling, tell them that they lost their husband because of the CIA. These are ethnically Russian people being killed by Russians, who can’t understand why no-one is helping them.