Quote Originally Posted by Lither_1927 View Post
No but that was the logical conclusion of your argument.

Do you think the EU should come out and say to Russia that it doesn't ever want Ukraine in the EU? Same with Nato...
it isn't most people's logical conclusion, only those who have swallowed whole the narrative that Russia has put out would make that conclusion.

Ukraine is a sovereign nation, it is none of Russia's business which countries it has ties to, the fault here is all Russias.

if Ireland suddenly entered into a close relationship with Iran or North Korea there would surely be a diplomatic response from us, but if we suddenly went to war in Ireland, and annexed a large part of it that would be totally on us, you couldn't say that Ireland provoked that response.

you seem keen to absolve Russia of any responsibility for their actions, when they are the aggressor and their response is clearly nothing to do with anything the EU are doing that is just a very weak excuse