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    Sensible Debate , Part Two

    Turnbull

    Quality player

    If Ramsey was fit , Siopis , Ralls and Wintle and Turnbull would make a good midfield

    He gets a dig from some fans because let's be honest the rest of the team are not pulling up trees and Ramsey and Odowda have hardly featured
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    Re: Sensible Debate , Part Two

    Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Turnbull

    Quality player

    If Ramsey was fit , Siopis , Ralls and Wintle and Turnbull would make a good midfield

    He gets a dig from some fans because let's be honest the rest of the team are not pulling up trees and Ramsey and Odowda have hardly featured
    Am I the only City fan who thinks Siopis is over rated and the sort of player we didn’t need?

    As for Turnbull, I’d like to see a bit more of him before coming to a definitive opinion on him, but can anyone say that he’s done anything yet to justify his alleged transfer fee of £2 million or even a quarter of that sum?

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    • #3
      Re: Sensible Debate , Part Two

      Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
      Am I the only City fan who thinks Siopis is over rated and the sort of player we didn’t need?
      No. I think Siopis is vastly overrated by many City fans simply because he runs around a lot. His passing is woeful for a midfielder at this level. His work rate is admirable and his ability to win possession is commendable, but it’s usually a waste of time as he so often gives the ball straight back to the opposition. To say he lacks composure is putting it kindly.

      I’ve got no firm opinion on Turnbull. He’s shown very little in his ten appearances so far, but he’s playing under a manager who is ridiculously negative and defensive, so it’s probably not fair to judge him just yet.

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      • #4
        Re: Sensible Debate , Part Two

        In a team so devoid of pace Bulut buys one of the slowest players since Joe Mason. You can see his quality as one of the few players that appears to take the ball no matter how many players are around him. But, with Colwill or Ramsey up there with him, we can forget any serious press.

        I think Bulut thought Siopis would be a defensive midfielder but found he doesn't have the time and simply gets overpowered in the championship. Wouldn't be surprised if he moved over the summer. I think he and Ralls work as two sitters but with that, your full backs need to be attacking but ours rarely cross halfway.

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        • #5
          Re: Sensible Debate , Part Two

          Turnbull has been underwhelming for me, not to say he’s a bad player I just think he’s along the lines of what we already have, like the others he lacks pace and physicality. Maybe under another manager he makes more of an impact, in our current set up I don’t see enough in him to play as a 10 or in the 2 sitting.

          As for Siopis he can be very good and equally as terrible. I think the post above is spot on, he’s decent alongside Ralls but alongside Wintle he’s just chasing shadows all game and we lose all shape.

          Despite us signing Turnbull and Siopis, midfield is still an area we struggle.

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          • #6
            Re: Sensible Debate , Part Two

            Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
            No. I think Siopis is vastly overrated by many City fans simply because he runs around a lot.
            In fairness to Sludge, Willie Boland did exactly the same and he was Sludge's hero!

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            • #7
              Re: Sensible Debate , Part Two

              Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
              Am I the only City fan who thinks Siopis is over rated and the sort of player we didn’t need?

              As for Turnbull, I’d like to see a bit more of him before coming to a definitive opinion on him, but can anyone say that he’s done anything yet to justify his alleged transfer fee of £2 million or even a quarter of that sum?
              As for Turnbull, it would be interesting to see him in a more attack minded line up.

              There's a family fun day at the stadium on Wednesday between 10am-2pm where the players will be training. My nearly 11-year-old reckons that "defensive training will run between 10:00am and 1:59:59pm; attack training will be in the final second".

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              • #8
                Re: Sensible Debate , Part Two

                Originally posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
                In fairness to Sludge, Willie Boland did exactly the same and he was Sludge's hero!
                We don't need another hero

                Thunderdome !

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                • #9
                  Re: Sensible Debate , Part Two

                  Turnbull is a disappointment if we really paid £2million for him! He has hardly made a huge impression.

                  Siopsis is like Steve Lynex runs around a lot which impresses the fans but actually contributes very little. Sorry showing my age there..

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                  • #10
                    Re: Sensible Debate , Part Two

                    Originally posted by The Prophet of Doom View Post
                    Turnbull is a disappointment if we really paid £2million for him! He has hardly made a huge impression.

                    Siopsis is like Steve Lynex runs around a lot which impresses the fans but actually contributes very little. Sorry showing my age there..
                    Thats too far. Lynex was utter shit. Siopsis is a decent player.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Sensible Debate , Part Two

                      I'm undecided on Turnbull. Maybe we could try him in a dual 10 role with Ramsey or Colwill but this manager is never going to do that.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Sensible Debate , Part Two

                        Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                        No. I think Siopis is vastly overrated by many City fans simply because he runs around a lot. His passing is woeful for a midfielder at this level. His work rate is admirable and his ability to win possession is commendable, but it’s usually a waste of time as he so often gives the ball straight back to the opposition. To say he lacks composure is putting it kindly.

                        I’ve got no firm opinion on Turnbull. He’s shown very little in his ten appearances so far, but he’s playing under a manager who is ridiculously negative and defensive, so it’s probably not fair to judge him just yet.
                        Against Ipswich Siopis' pass completion rate was 87% [Sofa Score].

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                        • #13
                          Re: Sensible Debate , Part Two

                          Siopis is a workhorse

                          Does all the dirty work to enable others to shine

                          In our case that's supposed to be Ramsey who's out injured and colwill , Tanner and bowler who all need to shape up in my opinion

                          If siopis or ralls or Wintle mess up it can be curtains whereas the forward runners often get out of jail

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                          • #14
                            Re: Sensible Debate , Part Two

                            Originally posted by Steve the Tea View Post
                            Against Ipswich Siopis' pass completion rate was 87% [Sofa Score].
                            Wonderful. What about the rest of the season? Or have my eyes been deceiving me?

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                              Re: Sensible Debate , Part Two

                              Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                              Wonderful. What about the rest of the season? Or have my eyes been deceiving me?
                              Siopis's stats generally make for good reading as a defensive midfielder. He's ranked 4th in terms of passing accuracy and 3rd for tackles won. However, he doesn't rank well for being dribbled past, has made more errors that have led directly to an opponent's shot than anyone else and offers nothing in any creative way.

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