This excellent stream from last night has the Greens winning four seats and I notice they’re up to nine points in a poll for the Observer this morning.
https://www.youtube.com/live/9pWPHxM...NOnTsj_IsLgq5_
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This excellent stream from last night has the Greens winning four seats and I notice they’re up to nine points in a poll for the Observer this morning.
https://www.youtube.com/live/9pWPHxM...NOnTsj_IsLgq5_
When I sent my mutilated Labour Membership Card back I joined the Greens. Used to have meetings in The Grange. That was the highlight for me. Coped with one meeting and that was enough. I have been in the wilderness ever since.
Sadly for me this election is all about removing this disaster of a Govt. Therefore no.
Saying that I will be abroad and my postal votes haven't come through so I may not be voting for anyone.
When Europen Communism was finally smashed in 1989 with the fall of the Berlin wall, and even hard Socialism was thankfully given its “final solution” in the 1990s into the 2000s, it is no co-incidence that this odd cabal began to be formed.
Initially it comprised of overzealous eco-warriors. But any groups desperate for membership naturally lowers its standard for membership entry. For UKIP it accepted the Bongo Bongo elderly racist guy. The error-strewn Green Party army now seems to be full of angry menapousal vegan wives, Greenpeace protestors, tree huggers, commies, frustated young girls far too ugly to get any bedroom action, economic ignoramuses, druggies, hippies, society’s cast-offs, those with no skills to contribute to society, dangerous idealists such as gender studies degree “alumni” and Feminist PhD’s, anti-semite racists and muslim fundamentalists. I dread to think what a summer garden gathering champagne and nibbles would be like with this hotch potch of Masters of Misery. What a barrel of laughs they must be.
The nadir of this barmy party was encapsulated just a few months back in the local election when muslim fundamentalist Moeheen Ali angrily shouted “Allah Akbar” when he won the Leeds council election for The Greens, and a load of crusties cheering him on as somehow this man could offer a vision of the future. Not the image of a sensible muslim as most muslims of Leeds surelt are. Wise choice, Leeds. All he was seemingly missing in his photo-op celebrations was a rifle and perhaps a live celebratory media conference with the Afghani Taliban to congratulate him.
If the UKIP/BNP are hate-filled disenfranchised right wing extremists, then it is obvious to any casual observer that The Greens are its equivalent evil twin on the Left. They represent and capture anger. But they do not have the brains, vision, people, leadership nor solutions for the future.
When things are bad these parties represent a “Barmy-O-Meter” of the Ventier Class, but nothing to take too seriously. They are bonkers. Just humour them a little. They’ll go away or go bust in due course.
Absolutely not. I have several Green friends, including one who was elected as a councillor. Nice person, but assumed money grew on trees so they really aren't strong enough on economic matters. They have shifted leftwards too in the UK, which I think is an error as across Europe they tend to be a little more centrist and are often in government coalitions.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
For me their importance is more as a kind of pressure group on all parties than being s viable party of government themselves
I have thought about giving them my vote, but Labour still has it for this election.
I did vote Green in the last local elections (and the Mayor & Police/Crime Commissioner) - and they won, unseating the Lib Dems for the first time in decades.
The Greens are in coalition with Labour on Sheffield Council - and (sadly for me) seem to be the more principled, energetic and effective partner.
They have hoovered up a lot of traditional Labour support in my part of the world - and are definitely seen as the radical alternative to the now firmly right-wing Starmer Labour Party. They get their funding from members - not from rich donors and lobbyists.
There is an element of wish list to their manifesto - but overall it is well thought out and deals with the real challenges facing the UK.
If or when Starmer finally breaks Labour the Greens will get my votes every time.
Labour , Liberal , Green , anything but the tories
Very important that the green party are about
But in terms of their manifesto it's not viable
Liberal plans for the care sector, which is absolutely shot to bits are better than labour and tories but this country won't pay for better health and social care
I’ve just switched to a postal vote and it’s not arrived yet. I had one for a short while when I lived in Cardiff as well and, from memory,I would have received and sent it off by now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
Good lad, voting Labour is the only way for us to get digital surveillance and control, and I would love to experience it in real-life before I die.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Good post Jon. The Greens made a pact with Plaid in Cardiff which was the real reason I stopped being active. Your posts make my flippancy regarding politics and this election look even more flippant! The truth is I’m worn down by it all and have no political home. Can’t bring myself to drape myself in a Union Flag. My local MP squeezed diazepam out of a vulnerable constituent. That’s how bad it is!Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
You don't think we have digital surveillance and control now? I thought you were on the ball with all this stuff?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
It's still at a mickey mouse level, the real stuff is lurking around the corner.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
I'll chase it up tomorrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
On a personal level I have done everything I can possibly do to reduce our energy consumption. We have massively improved the level of insulation in our house, draught-proofed as much as possible, installed solar PV and solar thermal, use only LED lighting, reduced the usage of the cooker by using an air frier and minimise use of "stand by" on electrical appliances.
I would like to vote "Green" but currently it would be a wasted vote IMO.
If you're voting in Cardiff West the Green candidate, Jess Ryan, is a paper candidate and she has done no campaigning, canvassing or leafleting. She hasn't attended any hustings either.
Vote Kiera Marshall!
God no there a batty bunch of cardogan wearing, self serving middle class rich fecks
Biggest hyoocrites around. Hectoring and preaching about “not flying” and being “carbon free” to any dumbass willing to be gullable enough to lend them their lobes. A senior member of their party admitted to three long haul flights this year. So telling us not to fly and taking three in one year themselves - hypocritical c*nts. As I said one Green candidate in the 2019 election “Get off my ****ing drive now and go and badger someone else dumb enough to listen”.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
The Greens are akin to being the head of the RSPCA and lecturing to everyone about animal welfare, only to then be caught red-handed, gang raping the neighbours dog.
They are snake-oil peddling scumbags, preying on the public’s exaggerated fears. Although the IQ of the average voting Brit should never be overestimated, it seems they have enough street smarts to smell the bullshit from these clowns and give them a wide berth.
Why do the Greens appear so thick? Because they cannot earn a living as a normal job, too lazy to get one, or they are Trustafarians living off daddy’s cash and trying to create a powerful job opening in politics. Nice crafty angle Tarquin and Arabella, but no thanks.
They will win hardly any seats so they should apply for a shit job in the local council scratching their bollocks at the desk pushing paper, or get on the tills in LIDL - if any dopey bastard will hire them.
As an afterthought, I have only recently decided at the weekend to let my two domestic cleaners go due to poor standards. But I wouldn’t even give these Green candidates that job, as it requires a bit of effort and I couldn’t bring myself to pay them the minimum wageQuote:
Originally Posted by Keyser Soze
The search goes on for a good worker prepare to put in the grunt and elbow grease.
You have to be a parody account. Nobody has your levels of ignorance and hubris.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keyser Soze
You feel challenged or insecure I see it, I get it. So your original text is corrected for you for ease of everyone’s understanding, William One-Liner.Quote:
Originally Posted by az city
You can have mine if you like. If you fancy voting for Stephen Doughty.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Where's the hubris in his post?Quote:
Originally Posted by az city
Kiera Mashall or Jess Ryan ?Quote:
Originally Posted by severncity
Which one
Surely a Green candidate should not be campaigning with leaflets - waste of paper. And I hope she is not using a car to get to various campaign venues, maybe time to bring out the just stop oil van again.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Wait until you see the houses they live in!Quote:
Originally Posted by pipster
She isn'tQuote:
Originally Posted by pipster
Yes she is - Cardiff West the Green candidate, Jess Ryan.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
https://cardiff.greenparty.org.uk/je...-cardiff-west/
Yes she is - Cardiff West the Green candidate, Jess Ryan.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
https://cardiff.greenparty.org.uk/je...-cardiff-west/
"Originally Posted by severncity View Post
If you're voting in Cardiff West the Green candidate, Jess Ryan, is a paper candidate and she has done no campaigning, canvassing or leafleting. She hasn't attended any hustings either."
Let’s be more precise. A true Green candidate, if they were principled and practiced what they preached would:Quote:
Originally Posted by pipster
1. Walk, skateboard or cycle everywhere and refuse to take a car, train or a flight anywhere. Unless they have a 40-60k Tesla (hybrids don’t count).
2. Walk around in hesian sackcloth or recycled clothing wear. No new jeans. No crisp shirts
3. Not wash their hair in water. It’s a waste.
4. Not use any plastic in their lives (oil based see, evil)
5. Be a vegan because eating an animal apparently destroys the planet. Leaves, seeds, fruits and plants only. Shouldn’t be in any meat restaurant
6. Never take foreign holidays
So here is the challenge. When one knocks on the door ask them if they do most of the above. The answer will be “No” or they will evade it. Then they move the goalposts and come out with laughable excuses.
Basically they hector and preach, but they don’t do it themselves. They aren’t mentally hard enough to do have the discipline. They don’t get high on their own supply, they don’t take their own cake, they’re in no hurry to eat their own curry.
Greens are the most hypocritical, two-faced, idiotic, unrealistic zealots you will find on the political spectrum. Most people see it, which is why the Greens’ ability to sustain double digits in the polls and get more than 2 seats is nearly as impossible as getting the average Green fanny to lift more than 20kg on a bicep curl.
What an idiotic barge load of bilge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keyser Soze
No , I said she isn't going to be driving around and using paper during her campaignQuote:
Originally Posted by pipster
Not she isn't the green candidate
I knowQuote:
Originally Posted by pipster
I said she isn't going to be wasting paper on leaflets, not she isn't the candidate
I ended my membership of Starmer's racist party just under two years ago and will be voting Green. I want the Tories out but I certainly don't want Starmer's God awful lot in.
Well if starmer is as poor as he appears he's going to be subject of a coupQuote:
Originally Posted by Pearcey3
So I am voting to get the Tories out then take it from there
As usual. William One-Liner with a vacuous statement. Never argues a point. Just a name-calling exercise.Quote:
Originally Posted by az city
I’ll play that game too. Nice one, SpazCity
I'm not sure what "Spaz" means. Care to enlighten me?Quote:
Originally Posted by Keyser Soze
I just Googled it. Apparently it's an urban contraction for "spastic".
What an ignorant, ugly-minded, hubristic bigot you are.
I wasn’t going to vote in this election but this thread has convinced me to vote Green. I’m like you and 10s of 1000s of ex Labour Party members. I’d have to vote for Stephen Doughty. Not gonna happen. Never voted Tory. Plaid can do one. I even defended Gethin at first as he’d helped me personally but I can’t respect him any longer. What a sH*t Show it is. UK is a joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pearcey3
he's a nerd who likes to pretend he's a lad on the internet, please don't try and make him stop, it's my favourite thing on here :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by az city
If you think a Labour Party which has just won a huge majority would then sack the leader which achieved that then you are more deluded than I gave you credit for. Which is quite a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Deluded is attending the weekly over 60s socialist action group at Abergavenny libraryQuote:
Originally Posted by Robin Friday's Ghost