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Yes they are worrying times and whilst Drakeford claims he is doing the best for Wales the data shows otherwise. Cardiff will have been in lockdown for 3 weeks come Sunday and the numbers with Covid keep rising. Caerphilly around 5 weeks and cases are still high. North Wales can't seem to control it, plus RCT, and I could go on.
England has hot spots in the North and London but much of the country is relatively good. In Wales most of the country has increasing cases and everyday its getting worse more or less across the board. Over 2/3 of us are in lockdown.
His data for banning the English concluded that visitors from UK and other parts of the world MAY have impacted on things in July/ August, but it's not conclusive. To take the action he is on that data shows scant regard for his people and their livelihoods.
With Drakeford in Wales and Burham in Manchester we are seeing party politics being played at the highest level with the lives of the UK population.
Sadly it is becoming that way all very well coordinated as well started with Sir Kier's circuit breaker , what I don't understand Sir Kier wants to shut down the whole country, Burnham doesn't want tier 3 as it will hurt Manchester, Wales could lock down now, in as much Boris is accused of confusion so does the opposition ,just depends on their vote base .
Yep its now become party politics sadly .
Lives are at stake as they are every winter , average Covid deaths are at 82 age , non Covid 81, which is extremely sad , it does seem it highjacked the elderly and very vulnerable, perhaps we double down on protecting them and allow young people to work and move about in a responsible way , sadly responsible behaviour is badly lacking in our society.
Great to see the Government ramping up Vitamin D consumption , every little helps , helped my immune issues over the last few years after some great doctors advise .
I think the arrival of 35000 students in Cardiff might be a lot to do with it. That’s a lot of young people from all over the world.
I’ll go for a two weeker but no more. What’s the point as it will just creep back up again when people start to move about.
Like mentioned above the average age of death is 82, surely those that need protecting can do just that even though amazingly, they haven’t been told to shield again yet.
to add insult to injury...
https://twitter.com/marcvjones/statu...378703874?s=19
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...our-and-tories
Looks like Labour and Tory council leaders and MPs in Greater Manchester are singing from the same song sheet.
Wasn’t the initial responses to Covid19 influenced by ‘party politics’, ongoing political policies e.g. Brexit and BoJo’s own libertarian view on things?
Sadly, the lack of any common sense and responsibility shown by the UK government has led where we are today.
Professor Jeremy Farrar of the Welcome Trust, and a SAGE member has just said 'playing party politics' and a North/South divide is very damaging to public health.
It sickens me that we have major UK cities with populations bigger than Wales with very very high numbers of Covid patients, struggling hospitals and a escalating death rate, whilst our leaders are bickering, businesses failing, and many of our young adults refusing to take responsibility for their behaviour.
God knows what sort of a winter lies ahead!
I listened to an interview with Matt Hancock on Radio 5 Live last night, where he accused Andy Burnham of playing party politics five times while continuously saying that we should all join together in the national interest the same amount of times. Presumably, his take on the "national interest" is that everyone should fall into line with the UK Government's view on things, so isn't he just playing party politics as well?
Hancock's repetitive interview was an example of the woeful standard of political debating on both sides of this argument - continuously repeating yourself does not prove you're right.
The tories are now throwing party politics about is just laughable. A desperate government and a few desperate supporters.
Beats Corbyn and Abbott wouldnt have done better though blah blah blah.
I d0n't ramble and you have no duty to read what I write so don't read it. On the internet, as I've mentioned before, everyone seems obsessed with 'hard evidence' demanding lonks and proof of every thing. Send me your address and when I take a shit I'll send you the hard evidence.
I just speak from my own knowledge gained over many years of life and very varied experience, just as you might chat to someone in a pub, I'm not in the debating chamber of the house of clowns in the bay.
For what it's worth I think you are a bigotted troll who looks for people who's politics you thinks differs from yours or whom you think are weak, and then you target them. Enjoy!
Hearing the Welsh Government are planning a 3 week lockdown beginning a week today or tomorrow.....they are leaking it out to ease the pain....
You think I'm a bigoted troll?
Fair play for someone who regularly acts like the pub twat on here you're slightly over sensitive about getting pointed out on it. Go back a few messages and remember it was you calling me out like a class snitch.
Anyway, let's cwtch and make up. Life"s too short and I'm not over enthusiastic about receiving your faecal artwork through the post. I'll get you a pint when we're all allowed to go back into the pubs.
hate to bring good news to this thread
but this certainly looks good news
https://www.pfizer.com/news/hot-topi..._albert_bourla
Wednesday of this week saw 946 cases in Wales, 12.43% of tests returning positive results, and 10 deaths compared to 752 cases and 3 deaths last week with Winter season still to come. We know that going hard early can buy time but medium to longer term there needs to be a different plan than what we have been doing which is seeing/starting to see a detrimental effect to almost every aspect of life, and with a potential no deal now being spoken about more seriously than before.Quote:
The greater Manchester situation shows the extent to which the government doesn’t get it: restrictions only work with public support – a sense of us pulling together to protect one another. Without that they have no hope.
For months – ever since the Cummings incident – the strategy seems to have relied on introducing ever-more draconian fines for everything, despite them often being all but impossible to actually impose. It doesn’t work: lockdowns (and restrictions) work by consent.
The result is a government pushing inadequate measures, with feeble support, to an indifferent public. And each time they react to that and step up the action, they do it two weeks too late. No wonder hospitals are filling up again.
https://twitter.com/jamesrbuk/status...11826576642048
An article on Germany's test/trace system from earlier this year: https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...=1602853397226
https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status...596033/photo/1
"When will people stop obsessing about Sweden, and instead start focusing on Germany and why it's done so much better than other European countries? Map via @FT"
"How No 10's relationship with its scientists broke down"
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-10-broke-down
Interesting charts with this article as well which I found reassuring - while Wales' growing number of cases is a cause for concern, the fact that the highest placed Welsh region in the UK cases per 100,000 chart is Cardiff all the way down in fifty second does make you wonder whether the "circuit break" lockdown we're almost certain to get in Wales is needed? My own view is that it is, but I accept that are valid arguments on the other side.
Yeah going about 12 months today. Giving Disney a swerve as seems like you can’t book much anyway, No fast passes, plus they aren’t doing any if the extra stuff anymore. I’ll stick with Universal for now, as all seems the same there. Few weeks at Clearwater after.
What is another lockdown going to do? Delay things a little maybe. If you are having a lockdown to beat the virus then you stop everybody from going anywhere. But that's not going to happen.
But we have so many mixed messages, inconsistencies and contradictions that people are starting to not really give a shit, and are carrying on regardless.
At some point the country is going to have to decide that we have to learn to live with this and make plans to do so.
The politicians are making decisions on things they know little about. They are not planning for a future, not making common sense decisions that will benefit the majority of the population, not taking into account the increasing number of non covid issues that are happing. Other illnesses going undetected, the mental health of a nation being eroded by scare-mongering statements that are then totally ignored by the people who are supposed to be leading by example. The affect on business and jobs.
They get an idea and then run with it even if it goes against guidelines set by organisations better placed to decide.
There is a catalogue of cock ups this year but still Boris thinks we are leading the world in all we do. And no one is allowed to challenge it.
In the past you would respect your politicians. You'd believe they were trying to do the right thing and make everyones lives better. Now they are being exposed as selfish, incompetent and acting on their own ideas that appeal to the minority rather than the majority.
DRAKEFORD BLINKS – AND BACKS DOWN ON PROPOSED ENGLISH-BORDER TRAVEL-BAN
https://penarthnews.wpcomstaging.com...er-travel-ban/