Thing is she's very likely socially liberal but fiscally conservative, is adverse to Islamophobia but is rich and doesn't want to lose the dosh. She's torn.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
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Thing is she's very likely socially liberal but fiscally conservative, is adverse to Islamophobia but is rich and doesn't want to lose the dosh. She's torn.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Maybe, and I know this may seem crazy to you, but maybe, just maybe your and Sludge's view of who Conservatives are is just a little bit stereotypical, simplistic and a little bit, umm, I dunno, wrong? Just an idea!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
Gosh no the overwhelming majority of conservatives are tossers I am absolutely certain of thatQuote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Andrew RT Davies your leader in the assembly and his comments regarding the female presiding officer of the assembly being a prime example
He's the leader of a political party not some fat oaf down the pub
Yes I thought about it, I give you that; it was worth reflecting upon. But, of course reality soon kicked in and I realised very quickly I was right all along: it's all about Dosh; these Tories will sell their soul and their grannies for it. They're terrified they'll become one of the Hoi Polloi.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
and so i ask the enlightened one , where was the self restraint when going medieval at a rave?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
The irony of criticising fanatics elsewhere and suggesting they find some peaceful middle ground when you are incapable of such yourself. Thankfully the consequences are nothing like the same here, but the principle is. 'othering' people is a major cause of conflicts. It's not what reasonable people do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
Yes but the flaw in your argument is that I'm no fanatic. I tell it as it is and you feel uncomfortable with it. I dare say because as a practicing Tory you constantly have to wrestle with internal conflicts but the love of money and status rules supreme for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
The self restraint was made obvious in those who chose not to take part in it. I thought even you would be capable of seeing that.
Again, daft stereotypes, but you know that really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
The constituency with the most Labour votes in all of the UK is Bristol West, centred on Clifton. Making these kind of stereotypes on wealth is just wrong, and again, you know it really.
As a way of thinking, whatever the scenario, it only produces conflict.
That comment interested me. I lived in Bristol (mainly Bristol West) from 1977-1983: Redlands, Hotwells, Cotham and St Werburghs.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Although there are some posh areas, my memory was that the constituency as a whole was much more mixed than the Tourist Board photos of Clifton suggest. And it is. Most people live in flats. Most rent don't own. A quarter of the population was born outside the UK. There are a lot of students. It is not an area that screams 'love of money and status'. Deprivation is around the UK average. But it does stand out as a hotspot for atheism - so no change there after 45 years!
It's a pretty diverse area, that's true. I know it well, and indeed will be there tonight!Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
It is comfortably the highest wage area (£671 per week) of the four Bristol constituencies though, and it is an interesting snippet of information that when sat in salubrious Clifton you are literally in the middle of the ward that has more Labour voters than any other.
I say that just to challenge a stereotype, as I've never liked them.
Average salary by constituency is quite interesting actually. Doesn't tell the full story obvs, but still.
(Much better viewed on a computer)
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/constituency-data-wages/
James give it up you know you're talking nonsense. You appear to have some internal angst and I'm not surprised. You're no doubt a very conflicted person.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Exactly. If folk had followed the example of Jesus then they would not be in this mess in the first place! This is just the beginning.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Ok, thank you. That's precisely why Jesus was hated when the Jews realized that the purpose of his coming was not to lead a violent revolution against the Roman occupiers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
No conflict here Dorcus. I'm an open minded type who knows there is good and bad in every one, irrespective of political party, religion, sexuality etc. The way it should be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
I even have a few Jack mates, though that is pushing it..
That's good to know, you'll be wanting to hug a hoodie next.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
so the vast majority don't back hamas , free gaza from hamas!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
Free yourself from those bellicose thoughts; you'll feel so much better for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by + the native hipster
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Originally Posted by JamesWales
Ask them if they think all Tories from the beginning of their existence are /were evil ,can they name one they like or a policy that has helped the country , or is it like a Hamas thingy ( from the river to sea ,we will be free ) doctrine
I thought BelaLugosi was deadQuote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
What all of them, thought Jews didn't belong in the middle East ,ffs its so confusing where do they belong too ,and them romans were an invading army from Europe I think ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gofer Blue
Whoever killed Jesus is for it , for ever and ever .......
I think he might beQuote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Well I can't think of one particularly because they hold heinous beliefs but some are not so awful as others. I definitely can't think of one policy which has helped the country but I can think of many which helped a select few become obscenely rich. And by the way, the Tories haven't been around all that long, a mere 300 years or so.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
the jew are portrayed as 'good with money' and becoming obscenely rich, i see where you are going.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
You are very astute. Why did it take you do long?Quote:
Originally Posted by + the native hipster
a good question , i don't know , i guess it took your hate of the jew, to point it outQuote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
You mean "hatred" of course! Let's get your grammar correct shall we before we move on to your perverse logic.Quote:
Originally Posted by + the native hipster
No hatred of Jewish people on my part but hatred of terrorism and genocide. I guess you are a supporter of both of these?
I wasn't sure if this was a wind-up or not but I will take the risk of receiving a "whoosh" and respond. Jesus was physically around in Israel around 2000 years ago, so at that time AIUI, most Jews would have been there rather than being scattered around the world. The Romans had conquered Israel and were an army of occupation during Jesus's time. At that time Israel as we know it today was split into two provinces: Israel and Judah, Israel being in the north and Judah in the south. Jerusalem was in Judah and the Roman governor there at that time was Pontius Pilate. Most of the places mentioned in the gospels are situated in Judah.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
The Jews detested the Romans because they were occupiers and they had to pay taxes to them. They also ruled with an iron fist. The Jews were praying that someone would come along, start an uprising and get rid of them. Jesus' message of peace and "love thy neighbour" did not go down very well and ultimately he was crucified (a cruel method of execution used by the Romans) though this had more to do with the ruling religious elite than the Romans. Too much to elaborate further here!
Although some Jews started emigrating quite early on to different parts of the Roman empire it was more than a thousand years later that the Jewish population started emigrating on a big scale to Europe and only in last 100 years they started returning to Israel en masse which is the underlying cause of the present situation.
Them Romans do belong too innit ffs wibble. For Christ's sake, why can't you even construct an intelligible sentence?Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Just to clarify your initial thoughts were right, it's just a wind up. The best advice is to ignore him!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gofer Blue
Except...I have to be fair his music knowledge is very very good: if he just restrained himself to texting about music he'd be a valuable contributor.
That's pretty harsh. I'm guessing the poor lad must be dyslexic or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
Also why can't you construct a sentence without using the name of Jesus in that way.
https://historyguy.com/wars_by_president.htm"]https://historyguy.com/wars_by_president.htm
What happens over there eventually gets replicated over here
I think think it's clear that BHO is the warmonger in chief with the serial shagger on his tails.
And whilst he doesn't get a pass, I confidently put it out there that DJT and based on
1.) Rocket man was neutralised, and peace established with the walk across the DMZ, and who now is firing his missiles again
2.) Abraham accords were signed and relative peace prevailed until the pervert took the residency
3.) I doubt Ukraine would have happened as this is basically down to the corruption cover up of the pervert and his son and subsequently the deep state war mongers edging Ukraine closer to Russia in spite of historical agreements not to, resulting in another warmonger taking the bait and opportunity, it wouldn't have come to this IMO.
Would have averted both these wars but would have been replaced by some mean tweets.
Stolen elections have consequences. Opinion!!!
You cannot tell the people, you have to show them.
Domestic Energy Prices
Interest rates
Fuel costs
Food prices
Federal reserve note collapsing
Medical care incredibly hard to obtain unless you got some spare wedge
Continuing climate scam
Death rates rising
Poverty increasing
Experimental treatments given to the people
Effective treatments denied to the public
Censoring of peer reviewed medical experts
CBDC cashless society on the horizon
Chyna getting interested in Taiwan
No one talking about a peaceful solution
Billions being pumped into wars
And another year of the above and more :frown:
Maybe a war will keep the people focussed on the sun, guardian, express, mail and mirror headlines, the illusion of choice!!! and a couple episodes of big brother as a booster!!!.
If i had to guess, it would be that we'll be taken to the precipice (a Cuban missile crises) but it will eventually blow over, the world will have a big sigh of relief and all the above will be memory holed and it's back to BAU
I was only 1 at the time of the Cuban missile crises and thus obviously could not remember this, this is without doubt
the dodgiest time of the planet in my lifetime, exacerbated with a dangerous pervert on one side who struggles to walk up the big boy steps of air force one and on the other, someone (opinion only) believes that he can nuke the west into submission with his allegedly superior strike weapons. If he does strike hopefully it will be after the Epstein client list has been released and which means we are all safe !!!!!!!
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-ye...-in-our-faces/
Well done Benjy. You utter callous wanker. Had him down as the same as Hamas all along.
I wonder if some people might see the situation in a different light now after reading that piece. Netanyahu is a wrong 'un alright.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordi Culé
If anyone hadn't, they haven't been paying attention, it's akin to the banks funding both sides of a war.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordi Culé
I was 16 at the time of the Cuban missile crisis and I remember it very well as you might expect! It was indeed a hairy time. What makes me smile (sardonically) about Putin is his apparent belief that he can nuke half the world with his amazing nuclear weapons and somehow Russia will remained unscathed. Even if there is no time for the West to retaliate to a pre-emptive strike (which I doubt would happen) has he forgotten that a relatively small dispersion of nuclear material from the reactor at Chernobyl spread over a large part of Europe, even to sheep farms in north Wales!Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
The fall out from a Putin "limited" nuclear war would be infinitely worse than Chernobyl and would certainly contaminate Russia with radioactive fallout, apart from the possibility of a nuclear winter as the smoke and dust spreads around the world. Maybe Russians might escape being incinerated but would likely die prolonged and painful deaths from cancer and starvation - happy days!
P.S. apologies for wandering off-topic.
In 5000 years this truth by hitchings will still be the answer
People making claims on land on hearsay and rumours and nonsense written in silly old books
https://youtu.be/rc90pcx6kNU?si=lPhElNVrcbIDR82H
If we could start all over and get rid of all the fairy tales about whose God said what to who and when we might have a chance
But that's unlikely to happen
The vast majority of my sentences do not mention the largely fictitious character of Jesus, old fruit. I shall use the epithet Zeus next time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gofer Blue