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Re: FT: BURNLEY 5 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
I get that, if we could have scored first in both of our league games this season, things might have turned out differently. Most have been after a striker to put the ball in the net and, it seems at least, like we are trying to be a bit more creative.
However, we look a complete shambles at the back. As last season went on, we looked worse and worse in defence. Bulut has brought in an attacking coach, but it looks like we need someone who can organise things at the back.
Are our defenders good enough.? Goutas , Chambers and O'Dowda with Horvarth behind them?
Meanwhile we are selling McGuinness.
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Re: FT: BURNLEY 5 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Cleve van Leef
Heads didn’t go down after the comical first goal, in fact they took the game to Burnley and were the better side in the first half. It was after conceding the 3rd that everything seemed to fall apart.
Heads were down after the second. Big time. They got through the rest of the half but fingers were being pointed. It’s not a happy camp
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Re: FT: BURNLEY 5 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Hilts
Are our defenders good enough.? Goutas , Chambers and O'Dowda with Horvarth behind them?
Meanwhile we are selling McGuinness.
A bit unfair to label O'Dowda as a defender when all he's doing is filling in the position because of injuries.
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Re: FT: BURNLEY 5 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Hilts
Are our defenders good enough.? Goutas , Chambers and O'Dowda with Horvarth behind them?
Meanwhile we are selling McGuinness.
Chambers was supposed to be a bit of a marquee signing, someone better than what we have. I know it can take time to develop partnerships, but not always. I seem to remember Roger Johnson and Glenn Loovens stepping in and looking the part from virtually the first whistle. Granted that an away trip to Burnley was likely to be a baptism of fire.
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Re: FT: BURNLEY 5 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Rock_Flock_of_Five
A bit unfair to label O'Dowda as a defender when all he's doing is filling in the position because of injuries.
Meanwhile we've got a 22 year old with 55 professional games under his belt and an incredibly promising youth product who has not looked out of his depth and even been one of our better players any time given a game in the first team. Who both actually play the position, but are 4-6 years too young for consideration in a Bulut league lineup.
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Re: FT: BURNLEY 5 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Hilts
Are our defenders good enough.? Goutas , Chambers and O'Dowda with Horvarth behind them?
Meanwhile we are selling McGuinness.
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Chambers was supposed to be a bit of a marquee signing, someone better than what we have. I know it can take time to develop partnerships, but not always. I seem to remember Roger Johnson and Glenn Loovens stepping in and looking the part from virtually the first whistle. Granted that an away trip to Burnley was likely to be a baptism of fire.
You're right. Danny Gabbidon, James Collins, Sol Bamba... all showed their natural ability right from the off.
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Re: FT: BURNLEY 5 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Pedro de la Rosa
Heads were down after the second. Big time. They got through the rest of the half but fingers were being pointed. It’s not a happy camp
NG had a pop at Ramsey, too. It was before Ramsey gave the ball away that led to either the forth or fifth goal, but it was a pass to NG that went straight out.
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Re: FT: BURNLEY 5 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Hilts
Are our defenders good enough.? Goutas , Chambers and O'Dowda with Horvarth behind them?
Meanwhile we are selling McGuinness.
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Originally Posted by
B. Oddie
NG had a pop at Ramsey, too. It was before Ramsey gave the ball away that led to either the forth or fifth goal, but it was a pass to NG that went straight out.
Ramsey is shot. He should have bowed out of the game like Bale did.
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Re: FT: BURNLEY 5 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Rock_Flock_of_Five
Ramsey is shot. He should have bowed out of the game like Bale did.
His brain is there not his legs.
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Re: FT: BURNLEY 5 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Hilts
Are our defenders good enough.? Goutas , Chambers and O'Dowda with Horvarth behind them?
Meanwhile we are selling McGuinness.
We aren’t bad at the back solely because we have poor defenders. Chambers and Goutas don’t look a good partnership but they’re constantly in 3 on 3 (or more) situations. We’ve got too many players further forward that have no intention of defending. We are a complete shambles. Goals like their third don’t just happen because the centre halves aren’t up to it.
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Re: FT: BURNLEY 5 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
Not saying you are wrong, but if we don't have midfielders who are covering the defense, and we don't have midfielders who are making runs forward... what exactly does our midfield do?
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Re: FT: BURNLEY 5 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
Goutas and Ng need to be dropped.
Ramsey needs to retire.
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Re: FT: BURNLEY 5 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Der Kaiser
Goutas and Ng need to be dropped.
Ramsey needs to retire.
Ng played well today? who would you have replace him i wonder?
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Re: BURNLEY v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Jimmy the Jock
I am going to have a wee wager, 13/2 is ridiculous.
It was ridiculous. In retrospect, 100/1 would have been short.
Far too early to get carried away by poor results, but suffice to say the bookies' pre-season odds aren't looking quite so daft now.
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Re: FT: BURNLEY 5 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Blooburd
Ng played well today? who would you have replace him i wonder?
No clue, that's the problem we have little depth defensively.
For me it's not even really an attack on them as individual players I thin they are pretty good, its just a recognition something is going horrifically wrong with the defence and those two have been mainstays of a dog awful defence. I'd just like to see a change for a bit in an ideal world to see if it is indeed them.
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Re: FT: BURNLEY 5 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
delmbox
At the risk of inviting a pile on, although that was a terrible result it was also a bit of a freak scoreline. These stats are not normal for a 5-0
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football...14t#MatchStats
I think there's a team in there and we'll get a lot better (yes even under Bulut) but August will be difficult
Save me Jimmy
I didn’t see the game but my eldest alluded to this as well.
Fingers crossed.
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Re: FT: BURNLEY 5 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Re: FT: BURNLEY 5 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
Looks like Ramsey stayed down injured after giving the ball away for the fourth goal and he was kept on to finally injure himself on the last one - excellent management there?
Also unfair to say the first three all very poor goalkeeping by Horvath?
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Re: FT: BURNLEY 5 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
Horrible kit, horrible defending.
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Re: FT: BURNLEY 5 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
Rambo is a luxury we can't afford
If several players are surplus to requirement then he must be in that clutch
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Re: FT: BURNLEY 5 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
LA Bluebird
Not saying you are wrong, but if we don't have midfielders who are covering the defense, and we don't have midfielders who are making runs forward... what exactly does our midfield do?
Move from side to side like the aliens out of the 70s space invader arcade game. They also move as slowly as the first level.
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Re: FT: BURNLEY 5 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Move from side to side like the aliens out of the 70s space invader arcade game. They also move as slowly as the first level.
There was one of those in the chippy
17 and 22 shots and the bonus alien would appear
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Re: FT: BURNLEY 5 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Move from side to side like the aliens out of the 70s space invader arcade game. They also move as slowly as the first level.
But you could manage lots of shots on target.....
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Re: FT: BURNLEY 5 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Move from side to side like the aliens out of the 70s space invader arcade game. They also move as slowly as the first level.
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Re: FT: BURNLEY 5 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
There was one of those in the chippy
17 and 22 shots and the bonus alien would appear
welcome to the thread