Reply With QuoteHeads were down after the second. Big time. They got through the rest of the half but fingers were being pointed. It’s not a happy campOriginally Posted by Cleve van Leef
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Are our defenders good enough.? Goutas , Chambers and O'Dowda with Horvarth behind them?
Meanwhile we are selling McGuinness.
Heads were down after the second. Big time. They got through the rest of the half but fingers were being pointed. It’s not a happy camp
A bit unfair to label O'Dowda as a defender when all he's doing is filling in the position because of injuries.
Chambers was supposed to be a bit of a marquee signing, someone better than what we have. I know it can take time to develop partnerships, but not always. I seem to remember Roger Johnson and Glenn Loovens stepping in and looking the part from virtually the first whistle. Granted that an away trip to Burnley was likely to be a baptism of fire.
Meanwhile we've got a 22 year old with 55 professional games under his belt and an incredibly promising youth product who has not looked out of his depth and even been one of our better players any time given a game in the first team. Who both actually play the position, but are 4-6 years too young for consideration in a Bulut league lineup.
You're right. Danny Gabbidon, James Collins, Sol Bamba... all showed their natural ability right from the off.
NG had a pop at Ramsey, too. It was before Ramsey gave the ball away that led to either the forth or fifth goal, but it was a pass to NG that went straight out.
Ramsey is shot. He should have bowed out of the game like Bale did.
His brain is there not his legs.
We aren’t bad at the back solely because we have poor defenders. Chambers and Goutas don’t look a good partnership but they’re constantly in 3 on 3 (or more) situations. We’ve got too many players further forward that have no intention of defending. We are a complete shambles. Goals like their third don’t just happen because the centre halves aren’t up to it.
Not saying you are wrong, but if we don't have midfielders who are covering the defense, and we don't have midfielders who are making runs forward... what exactly does our midfield do?
Goutas and Ng need to be dropped.
Ramsey needs to retire.
Ng played well today? who would you have replace him i wonder?
It was ridiculous. In retrospect, 100/1 would have been short.
Far too early to get carried away by poor results, but suffice to say the bookies' pre-season odds aren't looking quite so daft now.
No clue, that's the problem we have little depth defensively.
For me it's not even really an attack on them as individual players I thin they are pretty good, its just a recognition something is going horrifically wrong with the defence and those two have been mainstays of a dog awful defence. I'd just like to see a change for a bit in an ideal world to see if it is indeed them.
I didn’t see the game but my eldest alluded to this as well.
Fingers crossed.
Bitesize highlights:
Looks like Ramsey stayed down injured after giving the ball away for the fourth goal and he was kept on to finally injure himself on the last one - excellent management there?
Also unfair to say the first three all very poor goalkeeping by Horvath?
Horrible kit, horrible defending.
Rambo is a luxury we can't afford
If several players are surplus to requirement then he must be in that clutch
Move from side to side like the aliens out of the 70s space invader arcade game. They also move as slowly as the first level.
There was one of those in the chippy
17 and 22 shots and the bonus alien would appear
But you could manage lots of shots on target.....
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