Anyone thinking of voting Green?

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Originally Posted by pipster

Surely a Green candidate should not be campaigning with leaflets - waste of paper. And I hope she is not using a car to get to various campaign venues, maybe time to bring out the just stop oil van again.

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She isn't

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

She isn't

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Yes she is - Cardiff West the Green candidate, Jess Ryan.

https://cardiff.greenparty.org.uk/je...-cardiff-west/

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

She isn't

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Yes she is - Cardiff West the Green candidate, Jess Ryan.

https://cardiff.greenparty.org.uk/je...-cardiff-west/

"Originally Posted by severncity View Post
If you're voting in Cardiff West the Green candidate, Jess Ryan, is a paper candidate and she has done no campaigning, canvassing or leafleting. She hasn't attended any hustings either."

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Originally Posted by pipster

Surely a Green candidate should not be campaigning with leaflets - waste of paper. And I hope she is not using a car to get to various campaign venues, maybe time to bring out the just stop oil van again.

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Let’s be more precise. A true Green candidate, if they were principled and practiced what they preached would:

1. Walk, skateboard or cycle everywhere and refuse to take a car, train or a flight anywhere. Unless they have a 40-60k Tesla (hybrids don’t count).

2. Walk around in hesian sackcloth or recycled clothing wear. No new jeans. No crisp shirts

3. Not wash their hair in water. It’s a waste.

4. Not use any plastic in their lives (oil based see, evil)

5. Be a vegan because eating an animal apparently destroys the planet. Leaves, seeds, fruits and plants only. Shouldn’t be in any meat restaurant

6. Never take foreign holidays

So here is the challenge. When one knocks on the door ask them if they do most of the above. The answer will be “No” or they will evade it. Then they move the goalposts and come out with laughable excuses.

Basically they hector and preach, but they don’t do it themselves. They aren’t mentally hard enough to do have the discipline. They don’t get high on their own supply, they don’t take their own cake, they’re in no hurry to eat their own curry.

Greens are the most hypocritical, two-faced, idiotic, unrealistic zealots you will find on the political spectrum. Most people see it, which is why the Greens’ ability to sustain double digits in the polls and get more than 2 seats is nearly as impossible as getting the average Green fanny to lift more than 20kg on a bicep curl.

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Originally Posted by Keyser Soze

Let’s be more precise. A true Green candidate, if they were principled and practiced what they preached would:

1. Walk, skateboard or cycle everywhere and refuse to take a car, train or a flight anywhere. Unless they have a 40-60k Tesla (hybrids don’t count).

2. Walk around in hesian sackcloth or recycled clothing wear. No new jeans. No crisp shirts

3. Not wash their hair in water. It’s a waste.

4. Not use any plastic in their lives (oil based see, evil)

5. Be a vegan because eating an animal apparently destroys the planet. Leaves, seeds, fruits and plants only. Shouldn’t be in any meat restaurant

6. Never take foreign holidays

So here is the challenge. When one knocks on the door ask them if they do most of the above. The answer will be “No” or they will evade it. Then they move the goalposts and come out with laughable excuses.

Basically they hector and preach, but they don’t do it themselves. They aren’t mentally hard enough to do have the discipline. They don’t get high on their own supply, they don’t take their own cake, they’re in no hurry to eat their own curry.

Greens are the most hypocritical, two-faced, idiotic, unrealistic zealots you will find on the political spectrum. Most people see it, which is why the Greens’ ability to sustain double digits in the polls and get more than 2 seats is nearly as impossible as getting the average Green fanny to lift more than 20kg on a bicep curl.

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What an idiotic barge load of bilge.

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Originally Posted by pipster

Yes she is - Cardiff West the Green candidate, Jess Ryan.

https://cardiff.greenparty.org.uk/je...-cardiff-west/

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No , I said she isn't going to be driving around and using paper during her campaign

Not she isn't the green candidate

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Originally Posted by pipster

Yes she is - Cardiff West the Green candidate, Jess Ryan.

https://cardiff.greenparty.org.uk/je...-cardiff-west/

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I know

I said she isn't going to be wasting paper on leaflets, not she isn't the candidate

I ended my membership of Starmer's racist party just under two years ago and will be voting Green. I want the Tories out but I certainly don't want Starmer's God awful lot in.

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Originally Posted by Pearcey3

I ended my membership of Starmer's racist party just under two years ago and will be voting Green. I want the Tories out but I certainly don't want Starmer's God awful lot in.

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Well if starmer is as poor as he appears he's going to be subject of a coup

So I am voting to get the Tories out then take it from there

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Originally Posted by az city

What an idiotic barge load of bilge.

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As usual. William One-Liner with a vacuous statement. Never argues a point. Just a name-calling exercise.

I’ll play that game too. Nice one, SpazCity

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Originally Posted by Keyser Soze

As usual. William One-Liner with a vacuous statement. Never argues a point. Just a name-calling exercise.

I’ll play that game too. Nice one, SpazCity

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I'm not sure what "Spaz" means. Care to enlighten me?

I just Googled it. Apparently it's an urban contraction for "spastic".

What an ignorant, ugly-minded, hubristic bigot you are.

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Originally Posted by Pearcey3

I ended my membership of Starmer's racist party just under two years ago and will be voting Green. I want the Tories out but I certainly don't want Starmer's God awful lot in.

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I wasn’t going to vote in this election but this thread has convinced me to vote Green. I’m like you and 10s of 1000s of ex Labour Party members. I’d have to vote for Stephen Doughty. Not gonna happen. Never voted Tory. Plaid can do one. I even defended Gethin at first as he’d helped me personally but I can’t respect him any longer. What a sH*t Show it is. UK is a joke.

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Originally Posted by az city

I'm not sure what "Spaz" means. Care to enlighten me?

I just Googled it. Apparently it's an urban contraction for "spastic".

What an ignorant, ugly-minded, hubristic bigot you are.

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he's a nerd who likes to pretend he's a lad on the internet, please don't try and make him stop, it's my favourite thing on here :hehe:

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Well if starmer is as poor as he appears he's going to be subject of a coup

So I am voting to get the Tories out then take it from there

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If you think a Labour Party which has just won a huge majority would then sack the leader which achieved that then you are more deluded than I gave you credit for. Which is quite a lot.

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Originally Posted by Robin Friday's Ghost

If you think a Labour Party which has just won a huge majority would then sack the leader which achieved that then you are more deluded than I gave you credit for. Which is quite a lot.

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Deluded is attending the weekly over 60s socialist action group at Abergavenny library

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Deluded is attending the weekly over 60s socialist action group at Abergavenny library

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You're right. Deluded is the wrong term. Gullible is more correct.

You seriously believe the scenario you described could happen? They'll probably put up a statue of him in Smith Square or wherever LPHQ is these days.

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Well if starmer is as poor as he appears he's going to be subject of a coup

So I am voting to get the Tories out then take it from there

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Correct, it will be a globalist coup, are you sure you want that on your CV?

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Originally Posted by jon1959

You don't think we have digital surveillance and control now? I thought you were on the ball with all this stuff?

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The infrastructure is in place, but the control structure hasn't been activated.

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Originally Posted by Robin Friday's Ghost

You're right. Deluded is the wrong term. Gullible is more correct.

You seriously believe the scenario you described could happen? They'll probably put up a statue of him in Smith Square or wherever LPHQ is these days.

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Gullible and Deluded is old school socialists thinking people listen to their guff

Angela Rayner look at me I hate the Tories........but behind all your backs I am buying my council house , depriving others of having one and making 120 grand profit

You can have a go at people prepared to vote Labour in 2024 but these people will be nurses , doctors , teachers , social workers

Are you saying they are tory lite , tory pink too ?

You are talking out of your arris sonny

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Gullible and Deluded is old school socialists thinking people listen to their guff

Angela Rayner look at me I hate the Tories........but behind all your backs I am buying my council house , depriving others of having one and making 120 grand profit

You can have a go at people prepared to vote Labour in 2024 but these people will be nurses , doctors , teachers , social workers

Are you saying they are tory lite , tory pink too ?

You are talking out of your arris sonny

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Jesus you are hard work. People will vote Labour as the best option to get rid of the Tories. With me so far? Previously they could have voted not just to do that but to make radical changes to society. Still with me? Now they don't have that option, other than voting for a minority party because the pink Tories have hijacked the party. I'd draw you a picture but it's tricky on a football message board.

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Originally Posted by Robin Friday's Ghost

Jesus you are hard work. People will vote Labour as the best option to get rid of the Tories. With me so far? Previously they could have voted not just to do that but to make radical changes to society. Still with me? Now they don't have that option, other than voting for a minority party because the pink Tories have hijacked the party. I'd draw you a picture but it's tricky on a football message board.

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Thats very romantic

But the old party you drool over had too many associations with the far left .....momentum being a prime example

This country will never elect a left wing labour party

So we have to be realistic and accept that the middle ground is going to achieve some of our goals

But old school labour won't achieve any goals at all because despite what you think .....its never going to be in power

It would be great if we had a more idealistic left leaning opposition but we havnt so it's best to forget that pipe dream and work with what we have

I think you are wasting your time yearning for something called socialism when a decent liberal government could achieve everything and more

The sooner the opposition merge the better although I am sure you will still be unhappy about it

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Originally Posted by az city

I'm not sure what "Spaz" means. Care to enlighten me?

I just Googled it. Apparently it's an urban contraction for "spastic".

What an ignorant, ugly-minded, hubristic bigot you are.

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bla bla bla. Emotive Rent-A-Vent is back in fine fettle.

Had another leaflet through the letterbox from Stephen Doughty yesterday. Still voting Green. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-63502527