Printable View
willock isn't a loan.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
I don't think El Ghazi has been as good as OK for the wages we're probably paying him.
Simic early days to write him off yet.
Deboys has been with the club for years also. so he's been a part of previous recruitment strategies to some degree
Andrii Fedchenkov [Head of Scouting] left last month.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/key-figure-centre-cardiff-citys-30956451
StT.
<><
while neither the Willock or El Ghazi signings have given us the return we probably would have expected, I think they were both fine from a recruitment point of view.
willock had shown he was a decent player at this level.
El Ghazi was a bit of a gamble having been out of the game for so long, but if it had paid off we'd have got a premier League quality senior player, which isn't an opportunity that championship clubs have too often.
I think they were both worth a go, but with their ages and profile they should be leading players for us, and they just haven't.
I'd forgotten we bought him, but doesn't it say they've gone a new way since him, so before was down to the previous guy making the decisions, that would be a bit like blaming a coach for a manager's bad performance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
El Ghazi has been OK sometimes and I didn't see any complaints on here when we signed him, he's underperforming, and as you day early days for Simic but he has been poor too.
There was no complaints on here because we're just going on his name and reputation. They as a professional organisation should be doing far more and if they had done their jobs properly they shouldn't have signed him.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
it's very easy to say that in hindsight, but at the point we signed him it seemed worth a punt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bald Barry Bastad
there's an element of risk with any signing, and I'm not sure what the recruitment department would have been basing any judgement on as the guy hadn't been playing.
if it has come off and we had a premier league quality player on a free it would have been a masterstroke.
as it is he's not been awful, just not what we all expected.
Every signing is a gamble, this season we've made more good ones than bad ones, we are moving in the right direction at last, with regards to transfer strategy anyway :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bald Barry Bastad
At the end of the day, when you're shopping in the bargain basement a lot of these are going to be hit and miss. You get what you pay for
Another case of jobs for deboys.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
:hehe: Where do you think we should be in the table if we've got such an improved squad?Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
Is he confusing most efficient with worst fundedQuote:
Originally Posted by MOZZER2
We've spent 15m in our last 3 windows, so noQuote:
Originally Posted by PontBlue
He wasn't the head of recruitment. Deboys was his boss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve the Tea
I'm not on about the amount we spent on transfers. I'm on about this new streamlined system we've put in place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
The usual positivity fest on here :hehe:
There's always going to be hits and misses when it comes to recruitment, that's true in any walk of life. Kanga obviously didn't work out (even though I can understand why, on paper, they signed him); Salech might end up being sold for £15-20m.
For me the bigger worry is that Deboys is talking about leveraging recruitment data like it's a cutting-edge thing, when most clubs started doing this sort of thing 10+ years ago. While Brentford and Brighton were unearthing gems from the Danish second division we were still relying on kickbacks from Warnock's son. Better late than never and all that, but it really highlights how off the pace the club has been in a lot of these things.
If Bulut got that squad to 12th, we should be top ten on paper, but football is not like that!Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
We had a tough set of fixtures and a terrible start and that shaped the season. Then we sacked a Manager, took forever to replace him with a learn as you play YTS apprentice.
He's learning though slowly and we have a decent squad so should be OK.
there's barely any difference between any of the sides in the bottom half of the table.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
a lucky break here or there, or a good run of form for a few days is probably all that separates any of us.
agree tho you could say for most of the league not much in it from bottom to 7'th placed Brizzle City at presentQuote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
the top 6 are pretty much what i thought it would be even though it took a huge effort from Coventry . think Middlesborough will make it at the expense of West Brom .
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/ex...y-county-move/
Cardiff City's head of recruitment Patrick Deboys is in talks to join Derby County as the club's director of sport, sources have exclusively told Football League World.
The 31-year-old has been working as the Bluebirds' head of recruitment since the spring of 2023, taking over the reins from Kevin Beadell.
Jumping ship for a better job or because changes are coming and Deboys was going to be out?
And this so soon after the WOL piece uncritically building him up as a transfer genius and innovator.
(Enjoy the table where Kanga is supposed to have got a player rating of 5.9 over 15 appearances! Comedy gold.)
An interesting question.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Don't think I'd be too happy with this given his track record with us if I was a Derby fan.
A machiavellian plot by WOL to bring about his departure perhaps? 😁Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
That was his total over the 15 games, not an average. Also coincidentally the number of times he ran over the 15 games.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
That last piece says he's been here for ten years! That means he's been involved in our fall from the first premier season and around for all the junk Warnock signed second relegation
So practically a complete failure
:hehe: All is forgiven. I wonder how we'll cope without having the mastermind behind such hits as Jesper Daland, Roko Simic, Famara Diedhiou and Wilfried KangaQuote:
Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland
he would have been a young data analyst when he was first here, I can't imagine that Warnock paid him any attention at allQuote:
Originally Posted by fugsyphil