The Queen is dead. Confirmed at 6.30 by Buckingham Palace

Had time for her, most of my life she just seemed a nice old lady. I'm sure she was ruthless and suffered no fools but just seemed reminded me of my nan.

The rest of her dysfunctional family...

Having said that, I do think William tries his best and is most like her. Seems.to know what it's about and respects the privilege.

Rest just take the piss.

RIP

I can't say I'm a royalist and the whole topic rather bores me. But she was a great servant and stateswoman who behaved with a lot of dignity. Demonstrated a lot of 'soft power' for the UK too.

RIP

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Originally Posted by jimmyscoular

I liked the queen. As a young woman she strode the global stage with beauty and grace. In her twilight years she adopted the aspect of a kindly grandmother. Like many of us, I suppose, who have never known a different monarch, I rather took her for granted — the Christmas messages, the speeches opening parliament, the endless ribbon cuttings. I don't live for the monarchy, but neither do I object to it. It gives Britain a distinct flavour in the community of nations, and I do enjoy the pageantry and the tradition. But the value of all this depends much on the quality of the monarch, and Elizabeth II stood high in this regard.

RIP.

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Well said.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Very very upsetting, incredible woman who has been with us through much times of change.

In my humble view the most universally known , loved and respected person, and she was ours.. and part of our lives ..

The sunset over the Palace now is apt ..

My mum and her family from Pimlico in London would have been completly devastated...

Rest In Peace Great Lady .

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As I’ve said, she was spot on for the role, dignity, quiet but efficient authority, a decent human being who has shown how unelected (and elected) heads of state should behave. But I fail to understand how families can be completely devastated, I s’pose everyone is different but there are far more important ‘closer to home’ things to fret and get upset over. Still, each to their own.

Think this is apt , written about her by Phillip Larkin

In times when nothing stood
But worsened, or grew strange,
There was one constant good:
She did not change.

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Originally Posted by The Bloop

Still time for him to decide on a different regal name.

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You never know. He might want to identify as a Queen.

Big first couple of days for Truss

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Originally Posted by delmbox

Big first couple of days for Truss

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I bet Boris is gutted. He'd have loved bumbling about leading the tributes. Could have tried to get in the knickers of some European royal at the funeral aswell. Poor bloke, bet he wishes he hadn't had that party now.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Very very upsetting, incredible woman who has been with us through much times of change.

In my humble view the most universally known , loved and respected person, and she was ours.. and part of our lives ..

The sunset over the Palace now is apt ..

My mum and her family from Pimlico in London would have been completly devastated...

Rest In Peace Great Lady .

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Originally Posted by Ninja

Let's hope William gets his chance sooner rather than later. Charlie's another clown like Phillip was.
At least William has a lot of Diana about him, a bit of humanity and humility, less foot in mouth if you will.

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A bit of Diana about him???? I hope not, she was f*cking nuts, a right basket case and, also, not the beauty some made her out to be. Not a good looker at all.

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Originally Posted by delmbox

Big first couple of days for Truss

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You’re joking! It couldn’t have fallen any better for her. Takes the heat off her plans to help the poor and unfortunate.

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Originally Posted by splott parker

A bit of Diana about him???? I hope not, she was f*cking nuts, a right basket case and, also, not the beauty some made her out to be. Not a good looker at all.

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Agree on your last point; I didn't fancy her and there's not much I would pass by. Hugely neurotic to boot.

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

Agree on your last point; I didn't fancy her and there's not much I would pass by. Hugely neurotic to boot.

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Obviously never knew her but I imagine she was a frigging nightmare to deal with.

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Originally Posted by splott parker

A bit of Diana about him???? I hope not, she was f*cking nuts, a right basket case and, also, not the beauty some made her out to be. Not a good looker at all.

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Are you mad?
I'd have hit it :hehe:

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Originally Posted by Bluebirdman Of Alcathays

It was an absurd life, and while there are suggestions she was a rock amidst the world shambling around her, I'd say Elizabeth Windsor and the rest of her institution, with the weight of the centuries behind it, merely stayed put and maintained the status quo, letting the artifice and pageantry do the talking when necessary. This seems to be enough for all those looking or conditioned to look for "identity" or leadership when it's not really anything of the sort. But there we are.

The presence of "royalty" is, amongst other things, a mainstay of inequality and subordination. It's a sad day, and will be a sad week, mostly because it's all a symbol of how happy some are to accept that.

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Well said.

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Originally Posted by splott parker

Obviously never knew her but I imagine she was a frigging nightmare to deal with.

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And...?? She is (was) a woman wasn't she?


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Originally Posted by Ninja

Let's hope William gets his chance sooner rather than later. Charlie's another clown like Phillip was.
At least William has a lot of Diana about him, a bit of humanity and humility, less foot in mouth if you will.

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It's all medieval tosh and simply about the bed someone is born in. Still, the proletariat seem to enjoy the infantilism and keep the royals on their semi-deified pedestal.

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Originally Posted by Bluebirdman Of Alcathays

It was an absurd life, and while there are suggestions she was a rock amidst the world shambling around her, I'd say Elizabeth Windsor and the rest of her institution, with the weight of the centuries behind it, merely stayed put and maintained the status quo, letting the artifice and pageantry do the talking when necessary. This seems to be enough for all those looking or conditioned to look for "identity" or leadership when it's not really anything of the sort. But there we are.

The presence of "royalty" is, amongst other things, a mainstay of inequality and subordination. It's a sad day, and will be a sad week, mostly because it's all a symbol of how happy some are to accept that.

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Not sure how much you understand what a 'Monarchy' is, but the UK has a constitutional Monarchy. It affects how we are governed etc., for example the armed forces answer to the Monarch not the government. It may seem quaint and old fashioned, but I would prefer to have a non-political Head of State rather than, say an elected President.

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

It's all medieval tosh and simply about the bed someone is born in. Still, the proletariat seem to enjoy the infantilism and keep the royals on their semi-deified pedestal.

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

It's all medieval tosh and simply about the bed someone is born in. Still, the proletariat seem to enjoy the infantilism and keep the royals on their semi-deified pedestal.

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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

Not sure how much you understand what a 'Monarchy' is, but the UK has a constitutional Monarchy. It affects how we are governed etc., for example the armed forces answer to the Monarch not the government. It may seem quaint and old fashioned, but I would prefer to have a non-political Head of State rather than, say an elected President.

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apparently some people would have been happy to have boris as our international face

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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

Not sure how much you understand what a 'Monarchy' is, but the UK has a constitutional Monarchy. It affects how we are governed etc., for example the armed forces answer to the Monarch not the government.

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Sure they do.

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Originally Posted by Ninja

Are you mad?
I'd have hit it :hehe:

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With a f*cking baseball bat if she started her histrionics :hehe:

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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

Not sure how much you understand what a 'Monarchy' is, but the UK has a constitutional Monarchy. It affects how we are governed etc., for example the armed forces answer to the Monarch not the government. It may seem quaint and old fashioned, but I would prefer to have a non-political Head of State rather than, say an elected President.

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The German President is a politician but, unlike many other presidents, becomes non-political when taking up the post and when he or she becomes the Head of State. It is a different position to the Bundeskanzler (e.g. Helmut Kohl, Angela Merkel) who most people may think was the Head of State.

They may be elected twice and occupy the post for ten years whereas any royal dipstick can be in post until they die.

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Originally Posted by dandywarhol

I won't be shaking hands with Liz Truss anytime soon.

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A poignant moment

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A poignant moment

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That lamp shade is probably worth more than my house.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

That lamp shade is probably worth more than my house.

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The room is bigger than mine:hehe:

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

That lamp shade is probably worth more than my house.

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Yeah but “we’re all in this together” she said. Sitting in front of a solid gold piano.

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The room is bigger than mine:hehe:

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Bit boring mind, she could do with a corner bar and some nice brass ornaments hanging off the wall. No taste.

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RIP Bluebird. :ayatollah:

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That's humour

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Yeah but “we’re all in this together” she said. Sitting in front of a solid gold piano.

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I'm your Head of State but have never been on public transport, have no experience of your schooling system, never shopped in a supermarket, never applied for a job, never voted, never been in a pub, never worried about a bill, don't carry cash and generally live in a different world to you.

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Originally Posted by William Treseder

You’re joking! It couldn’t have fallen any better for her. Takes the heat off her plans to help the poor and unfortunate.

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Big as in eventful

I have had enough of this already and it's only just started

All the main TV channels , radio , jammed up with royal family experts and people stunned , shocked and devastated ?

She was 96 and they never met her yet they are consumed by sadness ?

These outpourings of public grief are hard work . Can't really avoid it really .

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

I have had enough of this already and it's only just started

All the main TV channels , radio , jammed up with royal family experts and people stunned , shocked and devastated ?

She was 96 and they never met her yet they are consumed by sadness ?

These outpourings of public grief are hard work . Can't really avoid it really .

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Sycophantic stuff.

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

I have had enough of this already and it's only just started

All the main TV channels , radio , jammed up with royal family experts and people stunned , shocked and devastated ?

She was 96 and they never met her yet they are consumed by sadness ?

These outpourings of public grief are hard work . Can't really avoid it really .

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I'm disappointed with you here sludge. Thought you'd have posted hours ago. Now you have posted it's pretty moderate. You're a closet Tory imo.

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

I'm your Head of State but have never been on public transport, have no experience of your schooling system, never shopped in a supermarket, never applied for a job, never voted, never been in a pub, never worried about a bill, don't carry cash and generally live in a different world to you.

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Stop chatting shit old nut ..how do you know she never been in a pub or on public transport, it's widely known she was out in London when WW2 ended.

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Originally Posted by Whisperer

Stop chatting shit old nut ..how do you know she never been in a pub or on public transport, it's widely known she was out in London when WW2 ended.

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Cor, luvaduck, Knees up Muvva Brown:hehe:

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Originally Posted by Whisperer

Stop chatting shit old nut ..how do you know she never been in a pub or on public transport, it's widely known she was out in London when WW2 ended.

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How do you know that is true ?

Just been on Twitter and Trevor Sinclair has chosen violence

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Originally Posted by jeepster

How do you know that is true ?

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Cause I study history innit

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Originally Posted by Whisperer

Cause I study history innit

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