I just asked if anyone knew the placebo uptake during the roll out , I heard the control group was one in ten ?Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
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I just asked if anyone knew the placebo uptake during the roll out , I heard the control group was one in ten ?Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
Crikey, when you boys turn up these days it's like a tandem ride! Isn't there a case study you should be working on?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
I guess it was one in ten then!:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
It beats being a Fauci sycophant.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
Isn't there a case study you should be working on?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Can you imagine going all the way to chop out this bit of my mail. Any reason apart from the obvious?
Most if not all of the measures were certainly needed in order to stop the spread of the virus and protect the weak and vulnerable. The only other option would have been to let it rip and achieve herd immunity im the wake of thousands of unnecessary deaths and the age profile of the deceased is of zero relevance.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
I'm just grateful that thousands were saved even though the measures deployed inconvenienced so many many selfish libertarians.
You could argue that those who bought into the lockdown policies were also selfish when you consider the excess deaths, caused by delays in cancer / heart operations , impacts on mental health services, increased alcohol use, the impact on education etc for a virus that has a similar IFR as flu, (bearing in mind we don’t put flu on a death certificate within 28 days of a positive test)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
And you dont think there would have been impacts on operations , mental health services , education if wed let Covid rip through the population.?Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
It did rip through the population, but to most is was mild, again that’s my point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
Operations…. The backlog is 7m plus so clearly that didn’t work
Ill rephrase as you didnt answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
Don't you think there would have been an impact if wed had no lockdowns and allowed Covid to spread much quicker?
A warning to the British public from Dr Aseem Malhotra.
https://rumble.com/v1li6a5-freeman-i...-malhotra.html
No you couldn't argue that. Nice try but my advice would be get over it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
Dr Aseem Malhotra 🤣🤣🤣🤣Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
The sugar anti carb eat loads of fat guy. ????
On another anti vax rant.?
It would have spread , but as the statistics suggest , healthy people under possibly 65/70 would have suffered mild symptoms. If you were really unfortunate you may have been in bed for a few days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
The vulnerable would have been locked down no question there.
It’s fact not a nice try.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
No utter rubbish. If you were really unfortunate you may have died.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
Chris Whitty didn’t seem to think so, neither did all those M.P’s who broke the diktats whilst at the same time ordering the public to “follow the rules”Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
The data suggests they were correct as well. Why don’t you just read the article in this post.
ONS data on healthy people
https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/trans...onditionsbyage
This data is prior to vaccine rollout
Doesnt that show if you were really unfortunate you would have died.?Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
One cohort group has a 1:555,000 chanceQuote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
This group is ten times more likely to die from a dog attack ,which would be even more unfortunate.
If you think someone under 65 without underlying health conditions is more likely to die from a dog attack I give up.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
I presume you can’t read data then :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
🤣🤣🤣Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
I can understand your confusion/amusement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
As far as I can tell TWGL1 posted a set of deaths of people with Covid and no other underlying conditions in 2020. It may have been to prove the effectiveness of the control measures or to move onto hospitalisations of recovering groups and the impact that had on both health service management ond deferred treatment of others but then again...maybe not!
Still to nail his point about the ONS statistics that break deaths down into four "cohorts" the first being people aged 0-44 he explains that in an unspecified "cohort" they were 10 times more likely to be mauled to death by a dog than die with covid.
You, unsuprisingly, pissed yourself laughing only to be told again that you can't read data, backed up with what some would call a tell smiley. :hehe:
Still, that's you told. Another bemused that we did not adopt the model that killed 10 times more Swedes than Norwegians before they locked down in early 2021 like the rest of the sane world at that time!
I feel like we're going to be having this conversation forever but dealing with covid wasn't about whether you would die or not. It was about making sure that health services weren't going to be completely collapse - which would then certainly lead to lots of death.
Just about the entire world quickly came to that conclusion. I can't think of any other action that the whole world agreed with and acted so decisively on in such a short space of time.
But yes, the whole world was wrong and I, after reading a couple of articles that happened to pop up on Facebook, had it right from the start.
I think all these boring posts on the Lockdown/Covid/Vaccines are just the meanderings of an obsessive who finds it difficult to sleep at night because they lost a business or whatever. Well, what do you know, life sucks, some unfortunates lost their lives.
It's a pity of course but blame the virus and get a proper job like most of us do. Being a businessman is never good for your health anyway.
There's much more to get upset about, like Cardiff City's fortunes for example.
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Originally Posted by Dorcus
Thank god I’ve not lost any business then .. been employed for 33 years in the same job , so what’s a proper job then :hehe::hehe::hehe:
Health wise , I’ve never had a days sick apart from when I got stabbed at an away game, and even then I was sent home from work.
Perhaps you lack empathy unless it’s Covid , like the two musketeers on here :who clearly appear to be in the vulnerable group set, and that’s their choice.
With regards to Norway, they submitted different data analysis to Sweden , they had a high death count prior to lockdown and the land mass/ per population differed - yet you failed to comment on that part.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
ONS data is clearly being ignored here , funny that, ultimately heathy people have a 1:550,000 chance of dying.
Have a look at the data for dog attacks as a comparison ( granted bad choice for data comparison)
Florida governor seeks grand jury investigation into Covid vaccinesQuote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ccines-florida
You'll never win against the Branch Covidians!Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
:hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
Love how when credible data is presented it’s ignored :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Go on then Alan Turing, talk us through your credible data workings.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
Did you identify the number of people in an unspecified cohort in England and Wales,
Then deduct the percentage of people who would have underlying health conditions,
Then apply some kind of factor for the effectiveness of lockdowns, social distancing, masks etc. Obviously you don't have the data for your preferred method of allowing the chosen few allowed to sporting events, nightclubs etc bumping into each other like pinballs.
Or did you just take a number and divide it into an unspecified much bigger number?
Then bizarrely conclude from that number that in 2020 people in the unspecified cohort had a 1 in 55000 chance of being mauled to death by a dog?
If you talk us through the credible data workings I guess we can all see your brilliance.
Covidians R gonna branch, innit! :donkey:Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
How many of these “healthy people” with a 1:550,000 chance of dying exist in the UK?
2/3rds of adults are considered overweight or obese in the UK.
Even traffic accidents are more dangerous if you believe the peer reviewed studies.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
Oops, forgot that the ONS data only covers March-June 2020 rather than a full year. My bad but I am sure your workings have factored that in!Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
If I was in your shoes, I'd probably be considering a discreet retreat. Between Musk and DeSantis, there is every chance that you will be receiving another drubbing of Russia collusion/Hunter's laptop sized proportions!Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
Look it's going to be a busy day what with the production of the perfectly formed case study and the proof to support your assertion that covid was lab manufactured.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Smiley man II can provide the goods on the 1:550000 stat.
You need to move on from endless meaningless cliches and platitudes. You can do it. I mean it looks like you have ditched Donald and jumped ship already!
Just looking at the data presented which doesn’t differentiate from overweight and obese. It’s woth reiterating (again) 2020 data was before vaccination rolloutQuote:
Originally Posted by Canton Kev
Clearly Covid was minimal risk to healthy people which is the whole justification of the original thread.
With regards to 2/3rds of adults being overweight and obese why were fitness establishments closed and fast food joints open ?
Where was the drive to fitness and well-being and healthy eating ? Instead they locked these people away.
Just stating facts.
I never was on any ship, just exposing the Lardy & Cyril BS for the public good!Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays